Educating Essex !!!

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RodMod

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1,169 posts

210 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Yet again another program showing a minority of Essex folk who are under achivers a bit slow or just plain stupid !

But fk me why dont these teachers just MTFU !

Was not like this in my day "During the war" I actually left school in 1994 , my how things have changed.

Rod.

monkey gland

574 posts

157 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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The culture of the school must take a large part of the blame for raising this generation of sub-human scum. If this is the state of the majority of comprehensives then there is just no hope whatsoever. That deputy-head teacher is a complete mong.

All I can hope for is it's just the children and adults playing up to the cameras and is not a reflection of the standards in today's schools, although I fear that may be rather optimistic.

pincher

8,642 posts

219 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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How pharking thick must that Carmalita (sp) be for carrying on with her accusation knowing full well that CCTV will reveal the truth?!?

Still, I doubt that she would be that bothered about being excluded rolleyes

Mr. Drew clearly models himself on David Brent but he seems to have the measure of most of the pupils. I quite like him.

covmutley

3,047 posts

192 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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To be fair, we just saw why they can't man up. The guy confronted the girl and she accused him of an attack. It it wasn't for the CCTV I bet the powers that be would have been on the side of the poor innocent kids and the teacher would have been investigated, which cant be fun

RodMod

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210 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Just saw the school is located in Harlow.

Essex is taking lots of publicity at the moment but for all the wrong reasons,

We cant deal with the pie peole at DAYL farm
Our kids are all wkers.
Then you have the only way is Essex which is just a load of st .

Defo moving soon.!

Rod.

MiniMan64

17,008 posts

192 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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RodMod said:
Yet again another program showing a minority of Essex folk who are under achivers a bit slow or just plain stupid !

But fk me why dont these teachers just MTFU !

Was not like this in my day "During the war" I actually left school in 1994 , my how things have changed.

Rod.
You're kidding right?

Teppic

7,406 posts

259 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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RodMod said:
Just saw the school is located in Harlow.

Essex is taking lots of publicity at the moment but for all the wrong reasons,

We cant deal with the pie peole at DAYL farm
Our kids are all wkers.
Then you have the only way is Essex which is just a load of st .

Defo moving soon.!

Rod.
As soon as I say you mention Harlow I just knew it would be Passmores.

Can't say I'm surprised at all.


Edited by Teppic on Thursday 22 September 22:52

essexplumber

7,751 posts

175 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Teppic said:
Ah, Passmores.

Not surprised. That school has always had a bad reputation.
Has it? I live bang opposite the old site (the school has moved to a new site this term) and having known lots of people connected with the school and 3 members of family having gone/going to Passmores I'd say it has a good reputation.

I can't recall seeing one fight outside, 99% of the pupils are well behaved outside the grounds, the staff are very polite and freindly and as far as I am aware the school gets results.

I'm quite sorry that the school has moved site to be truthfull.

Adrian W

14,006 posts

230 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Bit odd, that school has been closed for two years for redevelopment, I live near Harlow, glad my kids go to school in Bishops Stortford

RodMod

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1,169 posts

210 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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MiniMan64 said:
RodMod said:
Yet again another program showing a minority of Essex folk who are under achivers a bit slow or just plain stupid !

But fk me why dont these teachers just MTFU !

Was not like this in my day "During the war" I actually left school in 1994 , my how things have changed.

Rod.
You're kidding right?
Kidding about what ????

Rod.

essexplumber

7,751 posts

175 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Adrian W said:
Bit odd, that school has been closed for two years
No it hasn't, they all left at the start of the summer holidays.

Teppic

7,406 posts

259 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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essexplumber said:
Has it? I live bang opposite the old site (the school has moved to a new site this term) and having known lots of people connected with the school and 3 members of family having gone/going to Passmores I'd say it has a good reputation.

I can't recall seeing one fight outside, 99% of the pupils are well behaved outside the grounds, the staff are very polite and freindly and as far as I am aware the school gets results.

I'm quite sorry that the school has moved site to be truthfull.
Well, I haven't lived in Harlow for 13 years, but during my time there Passmores was certainly not regarded as one of the best. If they have managed to turn things around then good for them.

Edited by Teppic on Thursday 22 September 23:19

MartyPubes

900 posts

161 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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RodMod said:
Kidding about what ????

Rod.
How are you suggesting they 'MTFU'?

Adrian W

14,006 posts

230 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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essexplumber said:
Adrian W said:
Bit odd, that school has been closed for two years
No it hasn't, they all left at the start of the summer holidays.
If you say so!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passmores_School_%26_...

RodMod

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1,169 posts

210 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Well I suppose the teachers are only allowed to punish these children how they are governed to do so , just seems that when I was at school I was worried about getting thrown out of school for bad behaviour. I believe that this softly softly approach is not working (as shown).

Perhaps the teachers are not allowed to MTFU but the parents are the next port of call.

Rod.

RodMod

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210 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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MartyPubes said:
How are you suggesting they 'MTFU'?
Do you think we should just let children like this carry on then ?

Rod.

essexplumber

7,751 posts

175 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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Adrian W said:
essexplumber said:
Adrian W said:
Bit odd, that school has been closed for two years
No it hasn't, they all left at the start of the summer holidays.
If you say so!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passmores_School_%26_...
Yes I do, as the ever reliable Wikipedia says on the link you so kindly posted the new Passmores site on Traceys Rd has taken 2 years to complete after work started in 2009.

The original site on Tendring Rd (the one in the documentary) closed its doors at the end of the spring term 2011. But then what do I know I only live opposite the old site.

MartyPubes

900 posts

161 months

Thursday 22nd September 2011
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RodMod said:
MartyPubes said:
How are you suggesting they 'MTFU'?
Do you think we should just let children like this carry on then ?

Rod.
How much control do you think the individual teachers have over the rules that govern discipline in schools? From what I saw the chap in question seemed to be doing a pretty good job of instilling discipline despite actually having no punitive powers whatsoever. I didn't see anyone needing to 'MTFU' as you so elegantly put it.

Schools don't exist in isolation from the rest of society, if schools have gone soft it's because successive generations have either wanted them to, or don't care that they have.



MiniMan64

17,008 posts

192 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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MartyPubes said:
RodMod said:
MartyPubes said:
How are you suggesting they 'MTFU'?
Do you think we should just let children like this carry on then ?

Rod.
How much control do you think the individual teachers have over the rules that govern discipline in schools? From what I saw the chap in question seemed to be doing a pretty good job of instilling discipline despite actually having no punitive powers whatsoever. I didn't see anyone needing to 'MTFU' as you so elegantly put it.

Schools don't exist in isolation from the rest of society, if schools have gone soft it's because successive generations have either wanted them to, or don't care that they have.
This.

The accusation from the teenage girl shows precisely why we can't "MTFU".

You want to blame someone, look at the parents who immeditely believed her daughter rather than the teacher. I'm intrguied by the reaction this series gets as some peopple wake up to exactly what we have to put up with day to day and how badly our hands are tied. I also think this school is incredibly brave for letting the cameras in.

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

231 months

Friday 23rd September 2011
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If it shows just how shockingly lacking in authority the teachers are then I for one am glad it is on and I hope that it results in some changes to the power given to teachers so they can do their f***ng job properly without such fetters as they current are under.