Landlords - owner maintenance question.

Landlords - owner maintenance question.

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AlexanderV8

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1,468 posts

205 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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Because I didn't fancy being ripped-off to the tune of £220 to cut back a few branches of a tree in a rental property I own, I ended up doing the job myself. Question is, is there any way I can charge my labour to myself as the property owner, such that I can offset a sum against rental income for tax purposes?

I am not self-employed or own a business, so I suspect the answer is no but thought it may be worth asking landlords on here who may have come across this themselves.

Thank you.

MJG280

722 posts

261 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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You pay income tax on the rent or you pay income tax on yor income so no difference. You can claim any costs. Bought a saw just for that job??

Wings

5,819 posts

217 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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AlexanderV8 said:
Because I didn't fancy being ripped-off to the tune of £220 to cut back a few branches of a tree in a rental property I own, I ended up doing the job myself. Question is, is there any way I can charge my labour to myself as the property owner, such that I can offset a sum against rental income for tax purposes?

I am not self-employed or own a business, so I suspect the answer is no but thought it may be worth asking landlords on here who may have come across this themselves.

Thank you.
No you cannot deduct your labour costs, although you can deduct the costs of materials and your expenses, for both getting to and carrying out the job, so fuel, saw, hire ladder, and your partner's wages for holding the ladder etc. etc.

AlexanderV8

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1,468 posts

205 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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Thanks chaps. Thought so. I know about costs/expenses etc., just hoped there could be a small amount HMRC might allow/overlook for labour, as they do for wear & tear in furnished properties.
Wishful thinking I suppose!

Simpo Two

85,831 posts

267 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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Because the property is now nicer, charge an extra £5pcm for it and get your money that way nuts

AlexanderV8

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1,468 posts

205 months

Saturday 15th October 2011
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hehe The missus already suggested that but they are good tenants and it's the taxman I want to extract money from, not them. Those thieving scoundrels would only let me keep a bit of the increase anyway. frown

Simon Brooks

1,517 posts

253 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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If you charge for your time, you are technically creating another source of income which by rights should be declared on your tax return

In practice your business is paying you to do a job, somewhere along the line the revenue would expect to see a portion of the payment received by either you or A N Other

Unless of course OH or other family member who earns below the tax threshold is paid to carry out the work and therefore any tax liabily is avoided, they would however technically be required to declare the income

Just claim for materials and accept it's part of being a landlord if only on a small scale

AlexanderV8

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1,468 posts

205 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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Thanks Simon. I'm sure there's a dodge loophole somewhere in what you say regarding family members under the tax threshold. I wouldn't mind betting this is how landlords with multiple properties keep liabilities low. Setting up a loss-making maintenance company with relations as directors suddenly seems quite appealing!!

Simon Brooks

1,517 posts

253 months

Sunday 16th October 2011
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Alex

For the purposes of clarity incase revenue are reading this, I was suggesting there may be a legitimate and cost effective way of utilising revenue approved tax thresholds to your/family benefit. Whilst staying the right side of tax avoidance and not tax evasion

There now i feel better, knowing I have done my bit to assist the revenue in ensuring tax is paid where due