Police stop Mini Driver

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Rich_W

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12,548 posts

213 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/nov/03/police-at...

You've probably seen this floating about today.

Love how the 24 year old is now a "victim" despite it being a stolen car, (he claims he bought it for £6K. Course you did) he did 4 months in jail for driving whilst disqualified and handling stolen goods. rolleyes Yet feels they are terrible nasty people and he's clearly seeking a payout for PTS.

If past events are to give a gauge. The Police only tend to go a bit OTT when the driver fails to stop for them. And very curious that someone happened to be filming this event.

pacman1

7,322 posts

194 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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So, he was disqualified from driving, has been convicted for handling stolen goods in the past, and was driving a stolen car that he claims he didn't know was stolen.

Who gives a feck how he was treated? I don't.smile

Dogwatch

6,239 posts

223 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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Thought this was about the actress...

getmecoat

0a

23,905 posts

195 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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I'm very uneasy about the police attacking a car with baseball bats, I can't see- no matter the scumbag involved - that this is good for the police in the long run. They could have nailed him in some other way later and done it properly.

Like it or not, impressions are important. These guys should be disciplined for bringing the police in general into disrepute, in my opinion.

unrepentant

21,286 posts

257 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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Rich_W said:
If past events are to give a gauge. The Police only tend to go a bit OTT when the driver fails to stop for them. And very curious that someone happened to be filming this event.
Eh? Not curious at all. The Police filmed it themselves for evidence and it clearly said so in the article.

The level of force was totally disproportional and the officers were rightly disciplined.

EDLT

15,421 posts

207 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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They did something very similar on a Traffic Cops show a few years ago, although they used truncheons instead of bats.

Nobody cared.

WeirdNeville

5,969 posts

216 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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0a said:
I'm very uneasy about the police attacking a car with baseball bats, I can't see- no matter the scumbag involved - that this is good for the police in the long run. They could have nailed him in some other way later and done it properly.

Like it or not, impressions are important. These guys should be disciplined for bringing the police in general into disrepute, in my opinion.
And they have been, massively.

The problems with that team ran far deeper than what is visible in that video. To be honest, apart from some dodgy clothing choices and the use of bats and poles rather than proper equipment, provided that incident was justified and correctly written up there really wouldn't have been a problem with it. But there was....

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

253 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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From the start the cops come across like complete tools.. "attack attack" - too many xbox games me thinks.

Any cop that leaves the station with a baseball bat should be sacked......i mean, just stop and think - they are off to nick a car thief and someone seriously thinks picking up a BASEBALL bat is sensible???? Did no one say "err, Bob....why have you got a bat with you?"

Car thief should go to jail

Moron cops should go to job centre

0a

23,905 posts

195 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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WeirdNeville said:
And they have been, massively.

The problems with that team ran far deeper than what is visible in that video. To be honest, apart from some dodgy clothing choices and the use of bats and poles rather than proper equipment, provided that incident was justified and correctly written up there really wouldn't have been a problem with it. But there was....
It sounds like you know plenty about this incident. I post from the point of view of a member of the public who knows plenty of police guys (family/friends). I raised this last night and it was described as unhelpful to say the least.

The use of baseball bats etc isn't acceptable, even when equipment would have done the same job.

Edited by 0a on Thursday 3rd November 23:50

EDLT

15,421 posts

207 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Why do so many of these 'shocking' police stories involve the Met?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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It was mentioned a while ago on one of those police TV programmes that the window attack is designed to shock the occupant in case he has a weapon. It was suggested this is standard procedure.

Is it..?

0a

23,905 posts

195 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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mybrainhurts said:
It was mentioned a while ago on one of those police TV programmes that the window attack is designed to shock the occupant in case he has a weapon. It was suggested this is standard procedure.

Is it..?
You're up late- what's that thread again?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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You ain't seen me...right?

WeirdNeville

5,969 posts

216 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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mybrainhurts said:
It was mentioned a while ago on one of those police TV programmes that the window attack is designed to shock the occupant in case he has a weapon. It was suggested this is standard procedure.

Is it..?
It's not a standard procedure, but it is a viable tactic when justified and proportionate.

Edited by WeirdNeville on Friday 4th November 01:31

0a

23,905 posts

195 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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mybrainhurts said:
You ain't seen me...right?
I can confirm this.

Silver Smudger

3,311 posts

168 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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3 pages in SPL - Here

AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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It sounds like they fabricated a history of involvement with firearms to justify excessive force.

Not defending the car thieff by any sttretch but I reckon there's a lot more to this, somewhere in the direction of bent policemen.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Great!!!! now another criminal becomes a "victim" gives the army of scumbag lawyers work and said scrote is free to carry on as before...clap

F i F

44,226 posts

252 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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As I see it the shattering of the screen in front of the driver reduces visibility and hinders an attempted drive off, in addition to all the other reasons given.

Dodgy clothing choices = understatement of the century.

Digga

40,395 posts

284 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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EDLT said:
Why do so many of these 'shocking' police stories involve the Met?
Good question - one that need pursuing.

A mate on another force was part of the huge operation, post London riots, that drafted in provincial teams to the Met's turf to help swell ranks. He was in charge of a couple of carriers full of guys who were driven by local drivers. He and his guys made a point of getting out of their carriers and properly 'pounding the beat' as they would at home, but in some [i[very[/i] tough areas in the east end. The Met officer's were gobsmacked at the positive results they were getting - engaging with locals - and conversely my mate was horrified by their lack of communication and social skills.