Ken Livingstones Memoirs.

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essexplumber

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Sunday 20th November 2011
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As I was leafing through Jeremy Clarksons new hardback in Sainsburys today I spotted Red Kens book. At £12.99 it looks like good value but as someone who considers himself just to the right of center politically why am I so drawn to his book?

If I do buy it will I be considered a raving commie or worse still could I even turn into one?




Funk

26,324 posts

210 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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I'd rather eat my own turds than line Livingstone's pocket.

Norfolkit

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191 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Yes
Yes
You'll also become a raving hypocrite but will find solace in herpetology

valiant1

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161 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Give it a while and it will be in the 99p bin.

essexplumber

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Sunday 20th November 2011
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Funk said:
I'd rather eat my own turds than line Livingstone's pocket.
You see thats kinda how I feel but do you not sort of want to know what makes the other side tick?

I mean, what made him turn so left wing when in his own works he was brought up by Tory parents.

I think I might buy it, read it and then burn it, and roll naked in some bramble bushes as a sort penance.

Funk

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Sunday 20th November 2011
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Whilst it's admirable that you'd like to see what makes them 'tick', it's ultimately futile as you'll never convince them they're wrong...

Saddle bum

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220 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Funk said:
I'd rather eat my own turds than line Livingstone's pocket.
Agreed, but the Newt Lover is guaranteed to be a good opponent in a civilised argument.

"I don't agree with what you say but I'd die for your right to say it."

Puggit

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249 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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I'm sure the commies in every council will ensure our libraries are well stocked. No way I'm paying him any money!

DSM2

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Sunday 20th November 2011
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Saddle bum said:
Agreed, but the Newt Lover is guaranteed to be a good opponent in a civilised argument.

"I don't agree with what you say but I'd die for your right to say it."
Did he say that? If so then there' s plenty that I'm not allowed to say because of him and his ilk.

How do I find out when he'll die for that?

essexplumber

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Sunday 20th November 2011
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Saddle bum said:


"I don't agree with what you say but I'd die for your right to say it."
Is that a quote of his?



Funk

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Sunday 20th November 2011
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essexplumber said:
Saddle bum said:


"I don't agree with what you say but I'd die for your right to say it."
Is that a quote of his?
Definitely not!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Beatrice_Hall

Randy Winkman

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190 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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I don't even know why you're asking the question - why do you have to agree with his politics to want to read his book?

essexplumber

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Randy Winkman said:
I don't even know why you're asking the question - why do you have to agree with his politics to want to read his book?
Sorry, just thought I would use some of your opinions to help me decide.

dandarez

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284 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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As a publisher I can tell you it is not good value - since the Net Book Agreement went, you'll find if it's in Sainsburys looking like good value, you'll be wrong. I believe the 'retail' price of Red Ken's book is 25 quid. That means it will be on sale everywhere between £12 and £15 and a few outlets for suckers (who subsidise us) at full price.

Wait a while until it's remaindered (almost 100 per cent assured unless it's pulped), and then it will be around £2.50 in 'ALL' the bargain bookshops!

Edited by dandarez on Sunday 20th November 20:34

Saddle bum

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Sunday 20th November 2011
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DSM2 said:
Saddle bum said:
Agreed, but the Newt Lover is guaranteed to be a good opponent in a civilised argument.

"I don't agree with what you say but I'd die for your right to say it."
Did he say that? If so then there' s plenty that I'm not allowed to say because of him and his ilk.

How do I find out when he'll die for that?
No, it's not from him. That was Voltare ( I think?)

Mr GrimNasty

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171 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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“If voting changed anything, they'd abolish it.”

essexplumber

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Sunday 20th November 2011
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dandarez said:
As a publisher I can tell you it is not good value - since the Net Book Agreement went, you'll find if it's in Sainsburys looking like good value, you'll be wrong. I believe the 'retail' price of Red Ken's book is 25 quid. That means it will be on sale everywhere between £12 and £15 and a few outlets for suckers (who subsidise us) at full price.

Wait a while until it's remaindered (almost 100 per cent assured unless it's pulped), and then it will be around £2.50 in 'ALL' the bargain bookshops!

Edited by dandarez on Sunday 20th November 20:34
Interesting, cheers. I think I'll bung it on my Xmas list in that case.


How sad has my life become, Red Kens book for Xmas yikes

DSM2

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Sunday 20th November 2011
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Saddle bum said:
DSM2 said:
Saddle bum said:
Agreed, but the Newt Lover is guaranteed to be a good opponent in a civilised argument.

"I don't agree with what you say but I'd die for your right to say it."
Did he say that? If so then there' s plenty that I'm not allowed to say because of him and his ilk.

How do I find out when he'll die for that?
No, it's not from him. That was Voltare ( I think?)
.....before he invented the battery or after............ smile

Randy Winkman

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190 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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essexplumber said:
Randy Winkman said:
I don't even know why you're asking the question - why do you have to agree with his politics to want to read his book?
Sorry, just thought I would use some of your opinions to help me decide.
Apologies if I was abrupt.

I'd have thought it was good to read books by as many and varied people as possible - in order to broaden the mind. Though, I suppose there's always the issue of giving your money to someone you're not keen on. I can understand that might be a shortcoming.

essexplumber

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Sunday 20th November 2011
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Randy Winkman said:
I suppose there's always the issue of giving your money to someone you're not keen on. I can understand that might be a shortcoming.
That is my only snag with it, he may spend it on peace crisps.