Weird car related day

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tomwoodis

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570 posts

185 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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What an odd day I've had. Went off to play a game today with a bunch of mates in the car. Stop at petrol station to get some fuel and pop the boot open to get my wallet out before closing it again. Go into station and pay etc before coming out to find my 3 mates gathered round the back of the car. I go over to find that the rear windscreen has totally shattered. Turns out that I mistakenly trapped someone's bag strap/buckle between the boot lid and the rear windscreen so it was pressing against the glass. Whilst in the queue paying, it failed in catastrophic fashion making a loud crack and scaring the hell out of my mates in the back seat. Unfortunate you might say but not totally unexpected given what I had just done.

Fast forward half an hour... we've done our best to tape the glass together and bag up the rear windscreen from the inside to stop the imminent showering of glass which has done little to stop the inevitable so I'm now driving the last stretch of the journey to the game with the rear windscreen caved in. That's when it all got a bit more strange as the ABS light came on, quickly followed by the airbag light. I drive on thinking it can't get much worse but then the dials on the car start behaving very strangely jumping about all over the dash whenever I start pressing the brake pedal and my indicators have packed in.

We finally got the the game just as the car started to misfire as I was parking it up before finally dying altogether.

So there's me thinking that in some way the rear window going must have shorted something and knackered the battery but no, as it turns out, AA man (great samartin he was too) diagnoses it as a faulty alternator and complete coincidence.

think I must just have been massively unlucky today but on the plus side we did win the game so not a completely wasted journey.

Now have the difficult decision of whether to fix it or bin it. It's a 1995 328 that I bought for £500 quid and have only had it a month. Trouble is, Autoglass want £500 for the windscreen and it'll be another £200 or so for an alternator, hardly seems worth it really does it?

Sigh frown

0a

23,906 posts

195 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Your 328 has an interesting engine. Post more!

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

164 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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BMW breakers yard idea

To buy secondhand spares not to leave the car there BTW hehe

I see you are in the south east,there is a BMW place in Bow on A12 near Blackwall tunnel

tomwoodis

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570 posts

185 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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0a said:
Your 328 has an interesting engine. Post more!
Nothing wrong with the engine, just dodgy alternator not charging the battery. AA bloke charged it for 2 hrs and then I drove it home after the game so it's defo ok aside from that.

Just a shame I can't claim for the glass as I have it on 3rd party insurance given it's actual value.

Breakers yard is a good idea for an alternator. What about rear windscreens, can they be cut out of one car and put on another easily enough?

Matt UK

17,757 posts

201 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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tomwoodis said:
What about rear windscreens, can they be cut out of one car and put on another easily enough?
Yes they can

tomwoodis

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570 posts

185 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Good to know, I'll do some phoning about.

Codswallop

5,250 posts

195 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Autoglass is very overpriced. Try phoning smaller glass companies (yes, there are other options other than Autoglass). They can be a fifth of the price sometimes yes

timbo48

688 posts

183 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Before you go spending cash on a new alternator, have a look at the alternator belt, it may be slack. I had the same thing happen (not the rear screen!) last year, warning lights coming on and then everything shutting down. Ten minutes with a couple of spanners next morning and it was fixed. No problems since. It does seem a bit of a coincidence that your screen shatters and is then followed by these problems. Are you sure that it isn't a short circuit involving the screen heater wires which are then draining the battery? Might be worth having a good look at the wiring and connections that are involved.

gf15

990 posts

267 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Try one of the BMW scrap yards, should be able to get both in the same place hopefully!

spaceship

868 posts

176 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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That is st luck mate.

Don't bin the car yet. Get an alternator from a scrappy and claim window on your insurance if you can.

blondini

477 posts

179 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Remove the alternator end cover and check the soldered connections to the rectifier. Cheapest possible fix to resolder if one or more has fractured.

tomwoodis

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570 posts

185 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Thanks for the tips everyone, will go out a bit later and have a look at the alternator and the belt to see if it's something obvious.

If I can get a second hand rear windscreen, is it easy to fit or will I need a specialist? Presumably it's glued in somehow and then sealed?

Glassman

22,619 posts

216 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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tomwoodis said:
Good to know, I'll do some phoning about.
Add me to that list - I may even have a secondhand one ready to go.

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johny105

203 posts

207 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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they are bonded in, you need to make sure that everything is suuuuper clean.
we use glue that you heat up but there are other types available.
sika-tac is what we use
johny

Tuvra

7,921 posts

226 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Try Ebay for any parts!! Lots of scrappies use Ebay now.

I bought a Nissan Navara (D22) Turbo for £140!! New the cheapest was £1,400 or a reconditioned one would have cost me £800!!

SWoll

18,553 posts

259 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Any good?

Alternator

Rear screen

Had a quick look so apologies if no good. smile


tomwoodis

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570 posts

185 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Hi All,

Many thanks for the suggestions - quick update on where I am currently.

Managed to find a local fitter that would do me a new rear screen fitted for £220, still a lot of money but miles better than my original quote from Autoglass so I can live with that. I did find one suitable replacement on ebay but it was tinted which kind of put me off as would look silly given none of the other windows are! that was going to be £50 plus I'd have had to pay aroound £100 or so to have it fitted so all in all I thought just as good to opt for a new one. I didn't realise it originally but there are various different types of rear screen depending on whether there is space in it for a rear break light or not (some cars had rear wings with the light in that instead I think)

In terms of an alternator, that was also fun and games. I took the other one off the car on Sunday, couldn't for the life of me work out how to slacken off the serpentine belt to take the belt off so in the end resorted to a bit of brute force. Did the job anyway and that allowed me to find out what part number etc I needed to look for.

Apparently, for those that care, there were various types fitted to my particular version including both Bosch and Valeo. Mine was the latter and it took me a while to track another down that was the same type but managed it in the end. £30 from ebay so fingers crossed that turns up tomorrow and ends up working when I fit it at the weekend.

£250 all in to fix it and I will be happy.

Tom

XG332

3,927 posts

189 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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try and find a lace who will rebuild them.
Mine went last year, bought recon unit for £90 IIRC.

Packed up 3 months ago, took it back and they found the brushes were totally worn. 2 screws and 2 minutes later i was ready to refit it and it was FOC.

Glassman

22,619 posts

216 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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tomwoodis said:
I did find one suitable replacement on ebay but it was tinted which kind of put me off as would look silly given none of the other windows are! that was going to be £50 plus I'd have had to pay aroound £100 or so to have it fitted so all in all I thought just as good to opt for a new one.
All the windows in your car will be a standard (green) tint. There is no clear glass option for the E36. Only on the earlier E30 models.


Bungleaio

6,339 posts

203 months

Wednesday 8th February 2012
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Cant you claim for the glass on your insurance the same as you would for your front screen?