mondeo diesel to boxster 3.2s?
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Is it mad to consider going from a mk4 mondeo diesel estate (practical, economical,decent drive etc) to a porsche boxster s ? never really lusted after a boxster in any sense of the word ,but a decent 3.2s has come up locally at a decent price , and i like the idea of something nippy for the summer and sod practicality/missus/kids/mountain bike......i know it's going to be dearer to run , but will it be ridiculously so? opinions gratefully received 
ps i have a litre bike for kicks so speed isn't a real issue , and no , i don't want an mx5...
ps i have a litre bike for kicks so speed isn't a real issue , and no , i don't want an mx5...
I used to run both a diesel Mondeo and a Boxster S at the same time.
Shouldnt really be expensive to run as long as it's been serviced and looked after properly. Expect 20-25mpg, which will probably be less than half the Mondeo, so double fuel costs.
Make sure discs/pads/tyres are all OK + no RMS problems - might be worth having it inspected before buying. What year is it?
Don't expect the practicality whatsover of the Mondeo, but the front boot is quite large.
Shouldnt really be expensive to run as long as it's been serviced and looked after properly. Expect 20-25mpg, which will probably be less than half the Mondeo, so double fuel costs.
Make sure discs/pads/tyres are all OK + no RMS problems - might be worth having it inspected before buying. What year is it?
Don't expect the practicality whatsover of the Mondeo, but the front boot is quite large.
A recent clutch change would be ideal, they can be fairly heavy on them. Also this would mean that the RMS would have been checked/changed as a precaution while the clutch was out. If there is no sign of this, look out for a heavy clutch pedal. Either factor in £600 to have it changed or walk away.
IMS failure is greatly overblown on t'internet. Unless it rattles excessively on start-up, there is no need to worry (the majority of them tend to have a slight rattle from the timing chain/heat shield, but it's short and slight).
As someone else has said, it's best to get it inspected.
IMS failure is greatly overblown on t'internet. Unless it rattles excessively on start-up, there is no need to worry (the majority of them tend to have a slight rattle from the timing chain/heat shield, but it's short and slight).
As someone else has said, it's best to get it inspected.
Baz Tench said:
A recent clutch change would be ideal, they can be fairly heavy on them. Also this would mean that the RMS would have been checked/changed as a precaution while the clutch was out. If there is no sign of this, look out for a heavy clutch pedal. Either factor in £600 to have it changed or walk away.
IMS failure is greatly overblown on t'internet. Unless it rattles excessively on start-up, there is no need to worry (the majority of them tend to have a slight rattle from the timing chain/heat shield, but it's short and slight).
As someone else has said, it's best to get it inspected.
i must admit the ims/rms issues do scare me a little. the seems to be a lot of conflicting rumours/opinions on the net though. anyone have any experience of one of the uprated ims kits?IMS failure is greatly overblown on t'internet. Unless it rattles excessively on start-up, there is no need to worry (the majority of them tend to have a slight rattle from the timing chain/heat shield, but it's short and slight).
As someone else has said, it's best to get it inspected.
I honestly wouldn't worry about it too much. I s
t myself one day when I had an ominous rattle from the rear that wouldn't go away.
It turned out that one of the lambda sensors had worked loose. I just nipped it up and that was that.
There are plenty of scare stories, but i've owned mine for coming up to 3 years now and I have complete faith in it. A great car!
t myself one day when I had an ominous rattle from the rear that wouldn't go away.It turned out that one of the lambda sensors had worked loose. I just nipped it up and that was that.
There are plenty of scare stories, but i've owned mine for coming up to 3 years now and I have complete faith in it. A great car!
They are not bad for parts, brake discs are cheaper than my M3 by a long way, and fuel economy is very reasonable. In traffic doing 20 miles to work I was on 36mpg, booting it drops to 27mpg.
They are not fast though, or dont feel fast any way, certainly compared to the M3 which is also a 3.2.
They do makeup for this with the handling which feels planted and precise, and the engine noise is pretty good too.
There are a few problems to look out for when buying, so worth reading up on it.
They are not fast though, or dont feel fast any way, certainly compared to the M3 which is also a 3.2.
They do makeup for this with the handling which feels planted and precise, and the engine noise is pretty good too.
There are a few problems to look out for when buying, so worth reading up on it.
nottyash said:
They are not bad for parts, brake discs are cheaper than my M3 by a long way, and fuel economy is very reasonable. In traffic doing 20 miles to work I was on 36mpg, booting it drops to 27mpg.
They are not fast though, or dont feel fast any way, certainly compared to the M3 which is also a 3.2.
They do makeup for this with the handling which feels planted and precise, and the engine noise is pretty good too.
There are a few problems to look out for when buying, so worth reading up on it.
Must be reasonably quick with 250 bhp, certainly wont be slow, enough to work with for it to be enjoyable, I do sometimes wonder whether something with much more power is frustrating on the road, you soon get into license losing territory even with 250 bhp. Then we get into cars like the 535D, TTRS and GTR which seem to be bought by some solely for bragging rights regarding straight line performance.They are not fast though, or dont feel fast any way, certainly compared to the M3 which is also a 3.2.
They do makeup for this with the handling which feels planted and precise, and the engine noise is pretty good too.
There are a few problems to look out for when buying, so worth reading up on it.
J4CKO said:
Must be reasonably quick with 250 bhp, certainly wont be slow, enough to work with for it to be enjoyable, I do sometimes wonder whether something with much more power is frustrating on the road, you soon get into license losing territory even with 250 bhp. Then we get into cars like the 535D, TTRS and GTR which seem to be bought by some solely for bragging rights regarding straight line performance.
'Swift' is the word I would use. It's not neck-snapping stuff, but fast enough for me. The only thing I've found that I would like to improve is the throttle response. It's a bit soft.I believe they addressed this with the 987 though (mine is the 986). I suppose I could improve it with a remap but I don't really want to mess about with it.
Mine was one of the last 986's and it was 265BHP, on paper 164MPH and 0-60 in about 5.6, but it never actually feels fast. Sure if you look at the speedo its into 3 figures pretty quickly.
Its a smooth progressive power delivery,drive one to see what I mean.
Its a smooth progressive power delivery,drive one to see what I mean.
Edited by nottyash on Wednesday 8th February 08:03
nottyash said:
Mine was one of the last 986's and it was 265BHP, on paper 164MPH and 0-60 in about 5.6, but it never actually feels fast. Sure if you look at the speedo its into 3 figures pretty quickly.
Its a smooth progressive power delivery,drive one to see what I mean.
I was playing with one of the way back from the ring in friends (claimed) 240 bhp astra a few years ago. From a 80 - 140 mph roll it was pretty much dead on, it was only the astra that would run out of puff and the rate of acceleration would slow down where the boxster would carry on. I expected abit more tbh. Its a smooth progressive power delivery,drive one to see what I mean.
Edited by nottyash on Wednesday 8th February 08:03
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