night locks on db glazing
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If anyone has double glazing with the security night lock setting, a word of warning, the window is not as secure as people make out, let me explain.........
Early Wednesday was woken by my flatmates asking where the X-Box and PS2 plus 32 DVDs had been moved to, seeing both the front and the back door was still bolted from the inside, we hadn't a clue on what was going on!!
Nice start to my 26th B-day!!
Wasn't until I saw a footprint on the window ledge in the kitchen that we realised what had happened, somehow, some scrote had squeezed through a 5-6 inch gap and nicked all the stuff and got out again in less than 15 mins, much accusation later as to who was the stupid
who left the window open and would the insurance company accept the claim, we decide to call the BIB
Quick phone call to the BIB resulted in 2 coming out in less than 30 mins, only once they where there did we realised the window had been forced. Apparently even though it was on a night lock by using a screwdriver and applying pressure in 2 places the window will unlock in 10secs.
waited around for the forensic bods, but got a phone call at 2pm from local nick stating they had my stuff and could I come down and identify the missing stuff.
Apparently the scum had robbed my place, gone on to another house and done exactly the same but nicked a car as well, only the owner noticed this and called the BIB. once patrolling the area a battered punto was seen at 5:30am with 4 lads in it, one quick routine stop later the boot was opened and found with all the missing articles. Driver then confessed to it all and was going to show them where they had hidden the honda civic (taken from other house).
So was robbed at 4am stuff back in the house by 3:30pm, good result and a big thanks goes out to the BIB.
Thought my luck was going to hold out since 2 things had gone right (b-day and getting stuff back) so went and got a lotto ticket, did I win, sadly no!!
Moral of story, no matter how lucky you are you aint never gonna win the lotto.
Real moral of the story, never use night locks, cause they are more hassle then they are worth.
Anyone had any similar experiences??
Early Wednesday was woken by my flatmates asking where the X-Box and PS2 plus 32 DVDs had been moved to, seeing both the front and the back door was still bolted from the inside, we hadn't a clue on what was going on!!
Nice start to my 26th B-day!!
Wasn't until I saw a footprint on the window ledge in the kitchen that we realised what had happened, somehow, some scrote had squeezed through a 5-6 inch gap and nicked all the stuff and got out again in less than 15 mins, much accusation later as to who was the stupid
who left the window open and would the insurance company accept the claim, we decide to call the BIB Quick phone call to the BIB resulted in 2 coming out in less than 30 mins, only once they where there did we realised the window had been forced. Apparently even though it was on a night lock by using a screwdriver and applying pressure in 2 places the window will unlock in 10secs.
waited around for the forensic bods, but got a phone call at 2pm from local nick stating they had my stuff and could I come down and identify the missing stuff.
Apparently the scum had robbed my place, gone on to another house and done exactly the same but nicked a car as well, only the owner noticed this and called the BIB. once patrolling the area a battered punto was seen at 5:30am with 4 lads in it, one quick routine stop later the boot was opened and found with all the missing articles. Driver then confessed to it all and was going to show them where they had hidden the honda civic (taken from other house).
So was robbed at 4am stuff back in the house by 3:30pm, good result and a big thanks goes out to the BIB.
Thought my luck was going to hold out since 2 things had gone right (b-day and getting stuff back) so went and got a lotto ticket, did I win, sadly no!!
Moral of story, no matter how lucky you are you aint never gonna win the lotto.
Real moral of the story, never use night locks, cause they are more hassle then they are worth.
Anyone had any similar experiences??
Sorry for you intrusion....glad you got your stuff back...
Thanks also for the acknowledgement to the BiB..
Simple traffic stop in the early hours with a car load of lads eh? How many times have I heard on forums and such like, "Just stopping young lads in cars because the cops have nothing better to do"..or, "Why was I stopped, I had done nothing wrong, facist cops" etc etc...
Another good result from bread and butter coppering...
Street
Thanks also for the acknowledgement to the BiB..
Simple traffic stop in the early hours with a car load of lads eh? How many times have I heard on forums and such like, "Just stopping young lads in cars because the cops have nothing better to do"..or, "Why was I stopped, I had done nothing wrong, facist cops" etc etc...
Another good result from bread and butter coppering...
Street
Dont be stupid St -
Nah a couple of speed cameras would have not only caught them, but personally delivered the stuff back, apologised to the victims, then gone on to rehabilitate the victims and promoted world peace and goodwill in mankind.
hang on I thought I was Richard Brunstrom for a minute there!!!
- Nah a couple of speed cameras would have not only caught them, but personally delivered the stuff back, apologised to the victims, then gone on to rehabilitate the victims and promoted world peace and goodwill in mankind.
hang on I thought I was Richard Brunstrom for a minute there!!!
pdV6 said:
Real moral of the story, never use night locks, cause they are more hassle then they are worth.
Please ignore this advice, as I'm sure the insurance claim (had the goods not been recovered) would have failed if the windows weren't locked.
True, but had the windows not been on night lock and had been closed properly the thieves openly admitted to the police they wouldn't have even bothered trying to break into the house.
SiOsbon said:
SiOsbon said:
Real moral of the story, never use night locks, cause they are more hassle then they are worth.
Please ignore this advice, as I'm sure the insurance claim (had the goods not been recovered) would have failed if the windows weren't locked.
True, but had the windows not been on night lock and had been closed properly the thieves openly admitted to the police they wouldn't have even bothered trying to break into the house.
Think I might have misunderstood what you mean by "night lock" then...
SiOsbon said:
I meant "night lock" as in the window is supposed to be secure and is locked open slightly (1cm or so) to allow the flow of air into the house.
1cm? earlier you said 5-5cm gap? which is it.
I have the sort of 1/2 inch gap lock on mine, couldnt get a finger though the gap.. and I still use the key to lock the button down
how can this be compromised?
stooz said:
1cm? earlier you said 5-5cm gap? which is it.
I have the sort of 1/2 inch gap lock on mine, couldnt get a finger though the gap.. and I still use the key to lock the button down
how can this be compromised?
5 - 6 inches is the gap after they had opened the window fully, which is what (somehow) they managed to squeeze through.
They can be compromised by forcing a screwdriver onto the plate mechanism itself (about 2 inches to the left of the centre of the window), the other section I won't mention hear in case any scum is reading, but needless to say it was the BIB who showed me exactly where it had been done and say it is quite a common way to break in. Resultant damage is one warped mechanism and knackered other section (as mentioned earlier wont say exactly whereabouts) that could mean the window needs replacing (my landlords ganna love me when I tell them!!), it still seems to lock though.
I'm not convinced by them either. OK, they are still locked and bolted to the same piece of steel as they are when fully locked, but the main point is, a gap is now apparent when using the night locks.
Get a level, and you'll be able to put huge pressure on the mechanism, which before will not have been possible, since there is no gap!
I'd say that you'd be insured though, since it is locked. Any determined theif could pick a lock, force a door etc. They are all locked, but nothing is bullet proof to a determined theif.
I usually leave the small ones on night lock, and the bigger ones properly, since if they prise open the small one they still can't get in. Mind you, theiving scallies seemed to squash through your small kitchen window... hmmmm
May have to just use the built in vents and not bother with night locks if they are that easy to get round!
Glad you got your stuff back though, was damn lucky!
Cheers
Dave
Get a level, and you'll be able to put huge pressure on the mechanism, which before will not have been possible, since there is no gap!
I'd say that you'd be insured though, since it is locked. Any determined theif could pick a lock, force a door etc. They are all locked, but nothing is bullet proof to a determined theif.
I usually leave the small ones on night lock, and the bigger ones properly, since if they prise open the small one they still can't get in. Mind you, theiving scallies seemed to squash through your small kitchen window... hmmmm
May have to just use the built in vents and not bother with night locks if they are that easy to get round!
Glad you got your stuff back though, was damn lucky!
Cheers
Dave
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