Rebekah Brooks and others arrested on sus of PtCoJ
Discussion
This is quite a remarkable story. The worry is that with so many high powered people involved the facts might disappear in the mist.
The, er, 'close' relationship of NI with Blair excited me at first. Ignore the fact that we went to war in a way that many felt was illegal, that people died, on all sides, for no reason. After all, that was just blood on his hands, something that has been ignored for centuries. This was something different.
It was almost as if Murdoch was given favoured status from the time of Thatcher, with an apparent gap for Major, and then Blair took to it with some degree of enthusiasm. Regular meetings and legislation that apepared to the unitinitiated at least to favour NI and Sky. Then we get Brown, whom even Murdoch didn't like.
Murdoch then jumped ship and was nice to the conservatives and everything was back to normal, if not more so. Mince pies and turkey with an open fire at Christmas time with the firery red-head. Regular meetings with NI staff, taking on staff where their conduct had not been exemplary, and more, so much more.
Under Balir the enquiry into NI's activities seemed to die a death. Senior police officers, it would appear, thought that it would be beneficial if they buried 'difficult' enquiries. It has come back to bite some of these officers (and hopefully all of the corrupt ones), has harmed Cameron to a great degree, perhaps will do even more so, but Blair seems to come out of all this with nothing to stain his hide.
We can hope of course but if a case is made against Blair then it would also include Cameron. One would think this unlikely to happen but if the conservative party power brokers thought that Cameron might become a liability then he could well be outed - in the interests of the party - and thrown to the wolves.
This has the making of a tremendous television adaptation. A not so mini series where corruption and scandal reaches the highest places in parliament, the media and the police.
Favoured status is as corrupt as taking a bribe.
The, er, 'close' relationship of NI with Blair excited me at first. Ignore the fact that we went to war in a way that many felt was illegal, that people died, on all sides, for no reason. After all, that was just blood on his hands, something that has been ignored for centuries. This was something different.
It was almost as if Murdoch was given favoured status from the time of Thatcher, with an apparent gap for Major, and then Blair took to it with some degree of enthusiasm. Regular meetings and legislation that apepared to the unitinitiated at least to favour NI and Sky. Then we get Brown, whom even Murdoch didn't like.
Murdoch then jumped ship and was nice to the conservatives and everything was back to normal, if not more so. Mince pies and turkey with an open fire at Christmas time with the firery red-head. Regular meetings with NI staff, taking on staff where their conduct had not been exemplary, and more, so much more.
Under Balir the enquiry into NI's activities seemed to die a death. Senior police officers, it would appear, thought that it would be beneficial if they buried 'difficult' enquiries. It has come back to bite some of these officers (and hopefully all of the corrupt ones), has harmed Cameron to a great degree, perhaps will do even more so, but Blair seems to come out of all this with nothing to stain his hide.
We can hope of course but if a case is made against Blair then it would also include Cameron. One would think this unlikely to happen but if the conservative party power brokers thought that Cameron might become a liability then he could well be outed - in the interests of the party - and thrown to the wolves.
This has the making of a tremendous television adaptation. A not so mini series where corruption and scandal reaches the highest places in parliament, the media and the police.
Favoured status is as corrupt as taking a bribe.
Eric Mc said:
Wasn't Charlie Brooks one of T Blair's right hand men in the early days?
He most certainly was, Eric.This mess is going to reveal deep, serious and very high placed corruption in volume. Politics is a dirty game and the extent of the filth is about to be brought out before our very eyes.
I suspect the corruption is no respecter of political party. Hence Andy Coulson and Mr Cameroon and Charlie Brooks and Mr Bliar. All in it up to their necks.
But untouchable I fear by virtue of office.
Its a sad state for what is supposed to be an exemplary democracy. Progress???
Steffan said:
Its a sad state for what is supposed to be an exemplary democracy. Progress???
"Examplary democracy". Is that defined in the dictionary as "one that has had more experience of keeping things under wraps than the newer ones" ?
Lest we forget:
Official Secrets Act
Attempts to exclude Whitehall from FOI
I can't seem to find a smilie for "rose tinted glasses"
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