RE: New York show: SRT Viper revealed
RE: New York show: SRT Viper revealed
Thursday 5th April 2012

New York show: SRT Viper revealed

The Viper is back and faster, louder and more brash than ever - hurrah!



Big moment for SRT, this. There was a time when Dodge's Street and Racing Technology division - which recently became a standalone brand - didn't think it would ever build a Viper again. The enormous crowd that turned out to see the brand new car unveiled on the New York show stand certainly seemed glad that it did.

Interior now less 'kit car' - officially!
Interior now less 'kit car' - officially!
The crowd was so big it was literally about three-quarters of an hour after the end of the press conference before enough people left and we could actually get a good look at the car. Clearly a descendent of the previous generations, it also speaks of TVR boldness, and perhaps, slightly, of prancing horses.

This last bit is interesting, SRT President and CEO Ralph Gilles revealing in his speech that they did look at some platforms "from Italy." What with SRT parent company Chrysler being part of the Fiat Group now it would presumably be rude not to. But apparently none of them fit the Viper's proportions, so it's bespoke and engineered from scratch - 50 per cent more rigid and up to 70kg lighter than before.

Ferrari and Maserati have been helping out improving the low volume build process, however - in particular the interior. The Viper was always a bit 'kit car' inside previously (Gilles' words, not ours), and at least superficially the new one is a massive improvement.

Voluptuous lines have matured
Voluptuous lines have matured
But that's mere tinsel. This is really all about the performance - and there's plenty of engineering here to suggest SRT is speaking our language. For example, in a world obsessed with fuel economy and emissions, the new Viper has closer gear ratios and a lower final drive. Which means it now hits top speed at its 6,200rpm peak in sixth gear.

In typical American fashion, SRT seems rather reluctant to say what this top speed actually is - nor does it state how quickly the Viper will get to 60mph. But the new all-aluminium 8.4-litre V10 now produces 640hp and 600lb ft of torque. That's up 40 of each, and amongst other things makes this the most torque-laden naturally aspirated road car mill in the world.

It sounds utterly amazing - a hard bark that drills right though you, like a V10 F1 car. No wonder Gilles was grinning when he drives it into the limelight.

8.4-litre V10 laughs in the face of Euro wimps
8.4-litre V10 laughs in the face of Euro wimps
There will be two versions: an initial, luxed-out GTS variant, and a later "more flamboyant" looking but less well equipped standard car. There's launch control and two-stage adjustable Bilstein damping for the first time, and where rivals have a shift light, the new Viper has a "shift snake". So there.

The car is lighter and stiffer, has unequal length double wishbones all round, and even the bespoke tyre compounds are different front to rear. Many of the body panels are carbon fibre, there's magnesium and extruded aluminium beneath this surface - suddenly this all sounds a bit ... convincing.

Underlining it all, the Viper will be going racing again in the American Le Mans series this year. The appearance on stage of the race car was such a surprise to the assembled press and enthusiasts that it actually provoked some spontaneous whooping and applause.

Surprise debut of ALMS racer inspired 'whooping'
Surprise debut of ALMS racer inspired 'whooping'
In the end it doesn't matter what we think - there are plenty in the US who are already in love with this car.

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Alias218

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1,524 posts

183 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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This looks and sounds (in terms of description) brilliant! Anyone who thinks otherwise is either a Euro MP or an idiot. Or both.

suffolk009

7,078 posts

186 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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I would love to see that racing. I remember the previous ones at LeMans, happy days.

IAJO

231 posts

179 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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the bonnet is far too fussy but other than that its pretty awesome. Always loved these and glad they havent sanitized it.

kambites

70,372 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Not keen on the front end at all, that bonnet looks like one of those plastic monstrosities that 17 year-olds fit to their corsas. However, you certainly can't argue with the numbers. smile

Viper_Larry

4,359 posts

277 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Love it - just need to see it in Blue with White Stripes now biggrin

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

206 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Always liked the Viper.. this new model looks fantastic. Really like the shot of the rear end - great lines! smile

EDLT

15,421 posts

227 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Very cool, but then I liked the old one too. However, since the schools are off this thread is going to degenerate into some nonsense about interior plastics and hp/litre.

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

303 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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The more I look at it, the more I like it...

Tempting. VERY tempting :-)

myhandle

1,292 posts

195 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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It looks better than the last generation; more like the original. I think this is a good thing.

JWarren98

128 posts

168 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Looks lovely.
At least someone is still fighting the massive displacement in racing corner, couldn't beat it when we had 8.0 V10 Vipers, 7.0 V12 Listers, 6.0 V8 Corvettes etc so much noise!

450Nick

4,027 posts

233 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Never really seen the appeal of vipers - but this one really looks like a proper car.. When my lottery numbers come up, I'll certainly be looking at one of these!

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

303 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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kambites said:
Not keen on the front end at all, that bonnet looks like one of those plastic monstrosities that 17 year-olds fit to their corsas. However, you certainly can't argue with the numbers. smile
Entirely functional air ducts, if you ask me...

Two to get the air over the radiators/crate downforce (similar to an Elise :-p), with an air intake in the middle...

Big engine = big cooling needed...

kambites

70,372 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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PascalBuyens said:
kambites said:
Not keen on the front end at all, that bonnet looks like one of those plastic monstrosities that 17 year-olds fit to their corsas. However, you certainly can't argue with the numbers. smile
Entirely functional air ducts, if you ask me...

Two to get the air over the radiators/crate downforce (similar to an Elise :-p), with an air intake in the middle...

Big engine = big cooling needed...
I'm sure they are functional, but that doesn't change the fact that they're hideous. Having two exit vents with a raised entry duct between them just looks odd.

It's not as if the entry vent is very big, I'm sure they could have got enough extra air in through the ducts in the bumper if they'd tried. They could ahve run the air up exactly the same path, just underneath the bonnet rather than over it. From the engine-bay shot, it's only providing air to cool the top of the engine; the intake is being drawn from the front bumper.

Edited by kambites on Thursday 5th April 11:16

mackie1

8,168 posts

254 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Wow, looks great and the spec sounds amazing. How will the price stack up against a ZR1?

XitUp

7,690 posts

225 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Agree on the front end. I'd love to see it running though.

RyanOakley

18 posts

176 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Absolutely love the look of this car... That engine must roar like a beast!!

Current euromillion winning dreams-

House in America, SRT Viper, Shelby 1000

House in South of France, Ferrari 458 Spyder, Ferrari california

House in England, Audi R8, VW Golf R

Should I start praying now?

number1nesta

57 posts

177 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Best thing about this car is that it's still a good old manual. Fair play to the Yanks, they get criticised a plenty when it comes to cars but well done keeping the 'stick shift'. 10/10.

X5TUU

12,654 posts

208 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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sex-wee ... nice

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

303 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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kambites said:
I'm sure they are functional, but that doesn't change the fact that they're hideous. Having two exit vents with a raised entry duct between them just looks odd.

It's not as if the entry vent is very big, I'm sure they could have got enough extra air in through the ducts in the bumper if they'd tried. They could ahve run the air up exactly the same path, just underneath the bonnet rather than over it. From the engine-bay shot, it's only providing air to cool the top of the engine; the intake is being drawn from the front bumper.

Edited by kambites on Thursday 5th April 11:16
Erhm... the black box in front of the throttle bodies sits right where the NACA duct goes...

kambites

70,372 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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PascalBuyens said:
kambites said:
I'm sure they are functional, but that doesn't change the fact that they're hideous. Having two exit vents with a raised entry duct between them just looks odd.

It's not as if the entry vent is very big, I'm sure they could have got enough extra air in through the ducts in the bumper if they'd tried. They could ahve run the air up exactly the same path, just underneath the bonnet rather than over it. From the engine-bay shot, it's only providing air to cool the top of the engine; the intake is being drawn from the front bumper.

Edited by kambites on Thursday 5th April 11:16
Erhm... the black box in front of the throttle bodies sits right where the NACA duct goes...
Yes, and then sweeps down to the bumper with no hole on the top, I think. Here's a better picture:



ETA: ALthough there does appear to be a radiator in the way. Bugger knows where the air is coming from. hehe

Edited by kambites on Thursday 5th April 11:27