RE: What was it this time?
RE: What was it this time?
Tuesday 27th July 2004

What was it this time?

MG gets knuckles rapped yet again for one of its adverts


The Advertising Standards Authority received a complaint recently about an advert in the Sunday Times for the new V8 powered MG saloons.

The ad for the ZT 260 V8 included, in large text:

"Remember opposite lock? The endorphins? Well, the thrill is back with a sophisticated twist. The new MG ZT 260 V8 is the ultimate Sports Saloon experience - and now it's edgier than ever before. An awesome 4.6 litre V8 engine delivers 260Ps at 5,000rpm and 410Nm of torque. That translates to an electronically limited top speed of 155mph and phenomenal 0-60 acceleration in just 6.2 seconds. Add one of the most advanced suspension systems in its class, outstanding body stiffness to give incredible handling and cornering ability and the rear wheel drive engineering of a genuine sports set-up, and you'll understand that this car is definitely not for the faint-hearted. The new MG ZT 260 V8: it separates the men. Think you can handle it?"

In New Labour's Britain such talk is not allowed and the Advertising Standards Authority upheld the complaint from someone in Suffolk. The complainant suggested that the advert irresponsible because it encouraged speeding and reckless driving.

In their defence MG stated that the ZT 260 was a competent sports saloon and that they believed the advertisement communicated the overall driving experience not just the car's performance elements. MG maintained that the chassis and handling dynamics provided the driver with a more assured, controlled and safer driving experience.

They defended the phrase "Experienced players only" and the reference to the car having rear wheel drive (which they believe requires a higher standard of driving) saying that it showed that they had targeted the advertisement responsibly as well as adding a cautionary note.

The ASA disagreed though. Curiously they said that their understanding of the phrase "opposite lock" was that it is used to describe the deliberate use of oversteer, which involved turning a vehicle rapidly without losing momentum.

It considered that the phrase "Remember opposite lock? Endorphins?" implied it was exciting to speed around corners. The Authority considered that the lines "Experienced players only", "not for the faint hearted" and "it separates the men. Think you can handle it?" implied the car was for those who enjoyed speeding.

The Authority concluded that the advertisement could encourage speeding and reckless driving. It told the advertisers to amend the advertisement and advised them to seek help from the CAP Copy Advice team.

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Flat in Fifth

Original Poster:

47,731 posts

273 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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I take it if one were to scan the adverts for lentilist sandalista organisations and complain about their inaccuracies then a similar result?

chughesrwc2003

27 posts

261 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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Its good to see people using their time well and not wasting it away

TUS 373

5,026 posts

303 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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And I suppose the fact that the Freelander ad has a gun in it will have escaped the responsible individuals attention - hopefully for Land Rover.

Stupid country this. You can legally squat in someone else's home so long as you don't break in but you can't beat up burglars. A teenager can have 4 kids by 4 different fathers and get 'sponsorship' from Blair's government for doing so. But....

Britains biggest independent car manufacturer gets over zealosuly regulated on the strength of one complaint! For God's sake! This place is insane.

Don

28,378 posts

306 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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I am disgusted, yet again.

Perhaps we should form an "petrolheads internet complaining society" that organises mass complaints to the ASA about a range of issues.

For example - anything the government says on TV must be, by definition, a lie, inaccurate or deliberately misleading so there's plenty of lentilist-wind-up potential there...

steff

1,420 posts

285 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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I think the sadest part is someone wrote in to the ASA complain about it...

GAFL

Witchfinder

6,344 posts

274 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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MG-Rover should just stick to adverts like these. I mean, what could you possibly complain about here?

jeremyc

26,861 posts

306 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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Witchfinder said:
MG-Rover should just stick to adverts like these. I mean, what could you possibly complain about here?


Nope, they won't allow that: I think you'll find the wheels are blurred implying excessive forward motion which would be deemed irresponsible by the ASA.

>> Edited by jeremyc on Tuesday 27th July 10:59

DustyC

12,820 posts

276 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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How come that little smart raodster got away with all the sporty advertising then?

Is it because Lentil eating Ikeaists like them?
More than likely.

Toshers

shadowninja

79,199 posts

304 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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don't see the problem. free advertising on PH and I expect they'll get free advertising on Top Gear. for instance, i didn't know about this car until I read the article

sounds like a fun alternative to a mid-spec 3 series...

zumbruk

7,848 posts

282 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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There's a theory that this is an advertising ploy by MG, and that they are complaining about their own adverts, because they get more airtime that way...

widjit

121 posts

268 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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I just picked up a new ZT-T 190 on saturday (v. pleased by the way), after seeing witchfinders 'non advert' I almost want to buy another one now!

IMO the more we cow down to the thought police the more power we give them.

Mr E

22,678 posts

281 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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mmm. But the new Merc SLK ad shows someone chucking it around at speed in a desert.

do merc have better lawyers?

bad boy

821 posts

286 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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asa said:
their understanding of the phrase "opposite lock" was that it is used to describe the deliberate use of oversteer, which involved turning a vehicle rapidly without losing momentum



what the is wrong with these people

DustyC

12,820 posts

276 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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Mr E said:
mmm. But the new Merc SLK ad shows someone chucking it around at speed in a desert.

do merc have better lawyers?


The mazda adverts were in deserts too.

I wonder if they are suggesting that speeding and reckless driving is OK if you are in a desert (of which we have none in the UK)

(Well, apart from Sticky Toffee Pudding)

mrk4thom

1,265 posts

279 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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Am I correct in understanding from the article that there was one complaint from someone in Suffolk, i.e. one compliant from the whole of the UK!

One complaint, and a national advertising campaign is pulled, why? To protect this individual. He should clear be shot to put him out of his misery.

The country is insane. M

danger mouse

3,828 posts

283 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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DustyC said:

Toshers
...those fellows who make a meagre living by trading in what valuables they might find in city gutters and sewers.

Great application of the word Dusty.


Oddly, one one fo our cats is called Tosher.

danger mouse

3,828 posts

283 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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I tend to think that someone has got it in for our sole remaining vestage of a domestic mass motor industry.

As had been mentiont below/above, other companies seem to get away with throwing cars sideways, associating themselves with motorsport and, worst of all, driving simply for the pleasure of it...

...but I seems only the Brummies get slapped for it.

Why can't the NIMBYs do us all a HUGE favour and just keep their sad, irrelavent, outdated and pathetically unable to "get-it without fear of being over influenced it" rantings in their back yards!!!!

IYSWIM.





>> Edited by danger mouse on Tuesday 27th July 12:45

ftasb

229 posts

261 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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Arse, up, head, own, his/their. Rearrange these words to make a well known phrase or saying, applicable to the person who had nowt better to do but complain and the ASA for actually coming out with their utter crap response.
This is my PC reply. Couldn't print what my real thoughts are. g s get paid for this??

RichardR

2,904 posts

290 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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jeremyc said:


Witchfinder said:
MG-Rover should just stick to adverts like these. I mean, what could you possibly complain about here?




Nope, they won't allow that: I think you'll find the wheels are blurred implying excessive forward motion which would be deemed irresponsible by the ASA.

You can also see a corner in the background, suggesting that you should use the car for potentially dangerous cornering manoeuvres!


danger mouse said:


DustyC said:

Toshers


...those fellows who make a meagre living by trading in what valuables they might find in city gutters and sewers.

Been listening to Radio London?

>> Edited by RichardR on Tuesday 27th July 13:18

IPAddis

2,495 posts

306 months

Tuesday 27th July 2004
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Driving round corners fast and using opposite lock IS fun. No amount of censorship will change the fact.