Knee pain....

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nick_j007

Original Poster:

1,598 posts

203 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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Hi guys, just thought I'd ask out to see what your thoughts were on this one.

I've been on a very steady weight loss and regaining of fitness through stopping drinking and trying to get on my bike more. 44yrs of age.

I currently weigh 13.5 stone and my ideal weight would be 12.5 +. So I have a stone to loose and have already lost a couple of stone in the last 6 months.

Last summer when off the bike, my right foot slipped on some wet slate near the beach when stood having a rest. It was a small action but my knee after the moment was sore. I cycled back not thinking too much about it. Trouble is it's remained sore on and off and I'm approaching 12 months!

Yesterday I did a 22 mile road based bike ride and the top of my knee felt *really* sore when in bed. A bit of neurofen cream helped a lot.

This morning it feels pretty good, but I'm concerned that I'm not doing enough to help it. I have tried RICE on and off but no true improvement to speak of. Would you advise a bit of physio for it?

Is it possible to exercise out of an injury, albeit steadily?

Look forward to your thoughts.

Nick

marcosgt

11,021 posts

177 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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Get it looked at.

You have damaged it and, in my experience, if you just try and work through it, there's a good chance you'll make it a lot worse!

M.

Smitters

4,004 posts

158 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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marcosgt said:
Get it looked at.

You have damaged it and, in my experience, if you just try and work through it, there's a good chance you'll make it a lot worse!

M.
+1 - If it's not recovered over 12 months of normal activity, it needs looking at, especially as something you enjoy doing is aggravating it.

nick_j007

Original Poster:

1,598 posts

203 months

Tuesday 15th May 2012
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Thanks guys. Booked in to see my 'lady of pain' on Thursday.

Had a lovely bike ride Sunday but it felt very sore at the end of the day. Can't be too serious overall as it's actually felt really good each day since. Rode some pretty tough hills too and was pleased with how my legs held up overall.

Looking forward to some overnight camping with the bike laden in a few weeks time. Just want to be sure I'm balanced and fit.

Nick

RRS_Staffs

648 posts

180 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Id suggest looking at your bike too:

saddle position fore/aft?
seatpost height?
using SPD's?
cleat position?
etc

Good luck

nick_j007

Original Poster:

1,598 posts

203 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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RRS_Staffs said:
Id suggest looking at your bike too:

saddle position fore/aft?
seatpost height?
using SPD's?
cleat position?
etc

Good luck
Thank you. I have an all new set up re bike, saddle, spd's and shoes! hehehe. I think it feels very comfortable, though maybe 1cm extra height required. I would quite like to be assessed by a pro fitter, but not sure how to go about that. Any ideas? I'm near Kidderminster.

Here's my new bike...Interesting bit of kit.


RRS_Staffs

648 posts

180 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Hmm difficult to tell but its possible your saddle is a bit low looking at the pic
And have you checked your shoe cleats?
I unclip from the left at junctions and lights a lot more than the right so its sometimes becomes displaced putting stress on my left knee

In other words I get knee pain too and its usually because my cleat has moved

Sorry cant help with bikefit but Google should
Also suggest a tinker at home with the benefit of a bike website before handing over £100-200 too

Cheers

swiftpete

1,894 posts

194 months

Wednesday 16th May 2012
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Your leg should be nearly fully extended at the bottom of the stroke. An easy way of seeing if your saddle is the correct height is to put your heel on the pedal, your leg should be completely straight at full extension, which will give it a slight bend when your foot is on there normally. This might not be your problem, but it might be contributing.

khushy

3,966 posts

220 months

Sunday 20th May 2012
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Go to your local proper bike shop and get a bike fitting - that bike looks really awkward to me and your saddle isnt set up properly either.

Handlebar position = wrong and overall I would be really surprised if its actually the right size for the owner.

Judging by the photo of course.

For about £100, you could save yourself a lot of pain.

Get it fitted properly = no pain = more fun = better results

Khushy


Edited by khushy on Sunday 20th May 22:50

nick_j007

Original Poster:

1,598 posts

203 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Thank you for the feedback guys.

Well I've raised the seat by half an inch and it already feels much better and my knee has not been suffering post rides. I had a physio session on both knees last week which I'm sure helped.

The angles involved in the picture could appear strange due to the slanting gate and the nose of the bike pointing downwards. That aside the handlebars feel good, they are an unusual 'Salsa Woodchipper' type that flare out at the ends. They feel good to me.

What do you see in the saddle that looks wrong?

I'll get down to my local bike shop soon anyway.

Nick

Smitters

4,004 posts

158 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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A couple of good articles on saddle height Nick:

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm

http://sheldonbrown.com/saddles.html

Knee pain is a classic indicator of a too-low saddle, as you may have discovered already. The first article should get you close to spot on, then it's about playing about. The thing to remember is that moving cleats on shoes and moving the saddle forward and backward affect things too, but as has been said above, heel on pedal is a good sighter - just remember the crank should be in line with the seatube of the frame, not at six o'clock. Rocking hips when pedalling easily on a flat road is a classic sign of too-high.

It might also be worth sticking a bit of tape on your seatpost to give you a marker and so you're able to make sure it's not slipping down over the course of a ride. I had this once and it was massively annoying!

Good luck!

BliarOut

72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2012
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As the others have said, unless you're a pygmy that saddle looks way too low yes

Set it up as per the Sheldon Brown article and you won't be far off biggrin