why DO insurers requote so high?

why DO insurers requote so high?

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VinceFox

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20,566 posts

173 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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ok, let me start by saying this isnt a moan. i know ou have to do the dance each renewal and get the prices compared and so on, but the renewal amounts seem to be getting much higher relative to comparison amounts these days.

case in point, my m3. renewal offered at 480 quid. after comparison i get it down to 330. 150 quid. off a 450 quid quote. i'm poo at maths but that's a fair chunk of percentage.

so why do they go in so high? could the argument not be made that if the renewal wasn't so noticably higher then people might be less inclined to do comparisons?

DanDC5

18,818 posts

168 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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They pretty much chance their luck and just bank on you being lazy and just paying the renewal. I'd imagine it's surprising how many people don't bother to shop around.

VinceFox

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20,566 posts

173 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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DanDC5 said:
They pretty much chance their luck and just bank on you being lazy and just paying the renewal. I'd imagine it's surprising how many people don't bother to shop around.
yeah i know that's the concensus but it just seems the differences are getting greater to the point that it prompts people to look round a bit more.

hairykrishna

13,185 posts

204 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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I suppose it's because most of them renew automatically and they can rely on a good percentage of people just accepting it through laziness.

mnkiboy

4,409 posts

167 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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A couple of years back my renewal quote was more than double the previous years. After a bit of shopping around I got it back down to about the same as I paid the previous year.

There must be enough people who accept either through laziness or not realising that the company who they have been loyal to for the past 10 years are happy to screw them over.

VinceFox

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20,566 posts

173 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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hairykrishna said:
I suppose it's because most of them renew automatically and they can rely on a good percentage of people just accepting it through laziness.
bugger that. at on point the woman on the phone said she could only get within fifty quid and actually used not having to do the paperwork of changing companies as leverage!

you dont want to know what id do for fifty quid, but it goes waaaay past paperwork.

Riley Blue

20,986 posts

227 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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VinceFox said:
DanDC5 said:
They pretty much chance their luck and just bank on you being lazy and just paying the renewal. I'd imagine it's surprising how many people don't bother to shop around.
yeah i know that's the concensus but it just seems the differences are getting greater to the point that it prompts people to look round a bit more.
I shop around every year, swapping between a small number of insurers to get a 'new customer' discount which you don't get if you renew.

VinceFox

Original Poster:

20,566 posts

173 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Riley Blue said:
VinceFox said:
DanDC5 said:
They pretty much chance their luck and just bank on you being lazy and just paying the renewal. I'd imagine it's surprising how many people don't bother to shop around.
yeah i know that's the concensus but it just seems the differences are getting greater to the point that it prompts people to look round a bit more.
I shop around every year, swapping between a small number of insurers to get a 'new customer' discount which you don't get if you renew.
yup, loyalty tax innit?

B'stard Child

28,451 posts

247 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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VinceFox said:
Riley Blue said:
VinceFox said:
DanDC5 said:
They pretty much chance their luck and just bank on you being lazy and just paying the renewal. I'd imagine it's surprising how many people don't bother to shop around.
yeah i know that's the concensus but it just seems the differences are getting greater to the point that it prompts people to look round a bit more.
I shop around every year, swapping between a small number of insurers to get a 'new customer' discount which you don't get if you renew.
yup, loyalty tax innit?
What an excellent way of describing it....

VinceFox

Original Poster:

20,566 posts

173 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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B'stard Child said:
VinceFox said:
Riley Blue said:
VinceFox said:
DanDC5 said:
They pretty much chance their luck and just bank on you being lazy and just paying the renewal. I'd imagine it's surprising how many people don't bother to shop around.
yeah i know that's the concensus but it just seems the differences are getting greater to the point that it prompts people to look round a bit more.
I shop around every year, swapping between a small number of insurers to get a 'new customer' discount which you don't get if you renew.
yup, loyalty tax innit?
What an excellent way of describing it....
i cant claim invention of that one i'm afraid. does fit tho, doesnt it?

Potatoes

3,572 posts

171 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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I got my renewal quote through from Admiral - went up from £1,500 to £1,900 (accident in 2010, moved from a '53 Volvo S60 to a '57 BMW 525i touring). Expected a little hike.

I ran a few searches on gocompare to see what prices were thrown up. With some tinkering I got a quote from Elaphant, Admiral's sister company for £1,300... so phoned Admiral who matched this quote, then by adding another driver (who I'd simply forgot to add originally) knocked it down to £1,200!

£1,900 down to £1,200!

How does that even work?!

An image of some monkeys tapping calculators on the upper floors of some office block in Cardiff spring to mind


blugnu

1,523 posts

242 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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VinceFox said:
case in point, my m3. renewal offered at 480 quid. after comparison i get it down to 330. 150 quid. off a 450 quid quote. i'm poo at maths but that's a fair chunk of percentage.
I want to know why I had to pay more than your initial 'high' quote for an M3 to insure a 11 year old Fiat Multipla - and why your final figure is the same as it costs me to insure an 11 year old 1.6 Seat Leon. (no previous, clean licence, 38, 12 years NCB btw)

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Potatoes said:
accident in 2010, moved from a '53 Volvo S60 to a '57 BMW 525i touring... ...£1,900 down to £1,200!
good work but still, HOW MUCH?!?!

Baz Tench

5,648 posts

191 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Just this week, I had a renewal notice for £841 from my current insurer. Went onto a comparison site and the cheapest quote was £531.

I was pleased with this, obviously. What surprised me though, was that not only was it the same Broker, but the same underwriters as my current ones!




Edited by Baz Tench on Thursday 7th June 11:51

B'stard Child

28,451 posts

247 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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VinceFox said:
B'stard Child said:
VinceFox said:
yup, loyalty tax innit?
What an excellent way of describing it....
i cant claim invention of that one i'm afraid. does fit tho, doesnt it?
Totally fits

Potatoes

3,572 posts

171 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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sleep envy said:
Potatoes said:
accident in 2010, moved from a '53 Volvo S60 to a '57 BMW 525i touring... ...£1,900 down to £1,200!
good work but still, HOW MUCH?!?!
too much

cry

VinceFox

Original Poster:

20,566 posts

173 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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blugnu said:
VinceFox said:
case in point, my m3. renewal offered at 480 quid. after comparison i get it down to 330. 150 quid. off a 450 quid quote. i'm poo at maths but that's a fair chunk of percentage.
I want to know why I had to pay more than your initial 'high' quote for an M3 to insure a 11 year old Fiat Multipla - and why your final figure is the same as it costs me to insure an 11 year old 1.6 Seat Leon. (no previous, clean licence, 38, 12 years NCB btw)
i'm a little older than you. also it may be postcode or occupation?

Tonsko

6,299 posts

216 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Is there anything in a recent news item that I saw about competition between insurers actually pushing the price up? (By encouraging claims for non-fault to go to 'approved' garages that slap a percentage onto the labour costs etc. to make the other insurance company pay more).

StottyZr

6,860 posts

164 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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Potatoes said:
sleep envy said:
Potatoes said:
accident in 2010, moved from a '53 Volvo S60 to a '57 BMW 525i touring... ...£1,900 down to £1,200!
good work but still, HOW MUCH?!?!
too much

cry
Anything under 2k I see as normal. Since I started driving the lowest I've paid is about £1350 for 10months insurance on a 106 1.5d. Paid £1700 last year, after a non-fault accident I'm hoping for under £2k. Fingers crossed ehy!

blugnu

1,523 posts

242 months

Thursday 7th June 2012
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VinceFox said:
blugnu said:
VinceFox said:
case in point, my m3. renewal offered at 480 quid. after comparison i get it down to 330. 150 quid. off a 450 quid quote. i'm poo at maths but that's a fair chunk of percentage.
I want to know why I had to pay more than your initial 'high' quote for an M3 to insure a 11 year old Fiat Multipla - and why your final figure is the same as it costs me to insure an 11 year old 1.6 Seat Leon. (no previous, clean licence, 38, 12 years NCB btw)
i'm a little older than you. also it may be postcode or occupation?
I thought it started going up again when you got not much older than me - older drivers being more risky and so on? When does that happen? smile