No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist

No charge for Texas dad who killed daughter's rapist

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hesnotthemessiah

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2,121 posts

205 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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I'd like to think this would be the case over here too. I kinda think it would be. Not sure anyone would stay in control of themselves in this instance (or these circumstances) and I think the UK courts would take a similar view?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18522383

The beast (or whatever you wanna call him) sure got what was coming to him though.

normalbloke

7,486 posts

220 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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I just read this, made me go from pure rage, right up to having goosebumps.

Absolute correct decision.

princeperch

7,944 posts

248 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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this is the best thing i've read all day to be honest.

I hope that he suffered immeasurably in his final moments too.

sinizter

3,348 posts

187 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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Awful what happened to the daughter and what the father had to experience.

The correct decision was made, at least.

I am not entirely sure I trust the UK system to have reached the same decision.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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madmadmadmadmadmadmad i wouldn't have stopped hitting him until both my fists and feet were broken from the repeated impacts

brilliant jury.. jurys over here would have had him charged, cause the courts over here are beyond a joke

McClure

2,173 posts

147 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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princeperch said:
this is the best thing i've read all day to be honest.

I hope that he suffered immeasurably in his final moments too.
yes

Horrible, horrible situation. Just even thinking about that happening is putting me on edge... eurgh.

wormburner

31,608 posts

254 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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As long as the jury are happy that the 'facts of the case' are indeed facts then I can't see any issue with this.

Any father should not be expected to remain in any way sensible when faced with this situation

Jasandjules

70,012 posts

230 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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Sounds fine to me.


Sump Scraper

148 posts

154 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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I haven't any children my self but if I did and had seen any one doing that to my child or any child for that matter I think my response would have been the exact same,batter the ste out of the scumbag!!

Justice has been served!

GarryA

4,700 posts

165 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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Reminded me of the Gary Plauche case,

Video is NSFW but is not the gory one you can find online if you look. Still it does show a man being shot.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7f5_1281036313

hedgefinder

3,418 posts

171 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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hope the scum is having pineapples shoved up his arse for all eternity rotting in hell.
He deserved a much slower painful death though.......

Derek Smith

45,832 posts

249 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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I'm not sure that a similar decision would not have been reached in this country. I'm not even sure it would have got as far as committal.

When joining a firearms unit I had a lecture or two about the use of 'deadly force' by some barrister. Whilst the general view is that police can only shoot someone who is threatening the life of another this is, in law, incorrect. One question was about rape: would that be a sufficiently serious offence for an officer to shoot the suspect.

The answer was shrouded in qualification, the chap was a lawyer after all, but the simple answer was that it could be.

In this specific case the chap found the offender committing/about to commit a serious offence, one which is repulsive in the vast majority of people's minds. Reasonable force can be used by someone in such a situation as this one. The seriousness of the offence raises the level of reasonable.

The defendant would not want the offender to be able to recover in sufficient time to mount an attack on the chap and carry on with the dreadful offence so the chap was entitled to use a considerable degree of force. He will have said, no doubt, that he did not intend to kill the chap, and to support this he had his emergency call.

As long as there was no intent to kill from the start the chap has a clear defence, at least in this country.

As to whether the CPS would have proceeded with an indictment is another matter. I'm sorry to say that in my experience they are open to political pressure, although this was always a fault of those in charge not of the guys on the shop floor. One could see certain circs where the easy option of putting it to a jury would be the 'best' option.

matchmaker

8,514 posts

201 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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SystemParanoia said:
jurys over here would have had him charged, cause the courts over here are beyond a joke
Juries have fk all to do with charging people rolleyesrolleyes

LiamB

7,945 posts

144 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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Absolutely the right thing to do in a situation like that.

Makes my piss boil to even think if I was the father in that situation.

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

208 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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Derek Smith said:
As to whether the CPS would have proceeded with an indictment is another matter. I'm sorry to say that in my experience they are open to political pressure, although this was always a fault of those in charge not of the guys on the shop floor. One could see certain circs where the easy option of putting it to a jury would be the 'best' option.
Now, what "political pressure" would that be?


Edited by WhoseGeneration on Wednesday 20th June 23:53

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

171 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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He wasn't even arrested. That certainly wouldn't happen here.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

210 months

Wednesday 20th June 2012
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I suspect this comment had a serious bearing on the jury's decision-
article said:
As police struggle to locate the family ranch, the father swears and tells the dispatcher: "Come on! This guy is going to die on me! I don't know what to do!"