2006 4.3 V8 Clutch Gone

2006 4.3 V8 Clutch Gone

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crashley

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1,568 posts

181 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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So, annoyingly just as i put mine up for sale - a trip to Goodwood at the weekend seems to have killed my clutch. It felt fine, wasn't slipping at all, then sudden 2-stage movement and horrible feel - now been told likely to be down to a spring in the clutch breaking as happens on these, annoyingly.

So - it's currently booked in to my local AM who serviced it last week for a new clutch - who i hasten to add has been very competitive on price (sorry Bamford).

Now pondering whether to upgrade clutch/flywheel. Any thoughts guys? Would you consider buying a car with an upgraded clutch/flywheel (and would you pay more for the upgrade as a prospective buyer) or should i just stick to standard and sell it like that? Or get it done and run it for another few months whilst the summer's here...

Sometimes i hate cars.





Shandy81

137 posts

155 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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Sounds like you want to move it on, so it would; stick a standard clutch in and run it for the next 8/10 weeks and shift on towards the end of the good weather (chuckle)..

michael gould

5,691 posts

242 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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if your selling it I wouldn't have the upgraded clutch

Ice27

802 posts

160 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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Yup, I agree with the above answers.
If your selling it, put the cheaper standard clutching.
If you were keeping it. I'd put the upgraded clutch and flywheel in.

Out if interest, what are the approximate costs of these two options, for comparison.

petesv8v

95 posts

154 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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My thought FWIW would be that if you are immediatly selling the car replace the clutch with OEM and new owner then knows he has 'full clutch life expectancy'. Uprating will provide him with better kit but you are unlikely to acheive a higher price to reflect the extra cost - why would a new buyer want to pay more when he knows he can barter you down to price on comparable vehicles. If you are keeping the car then upgrade is worth considering - you get the benefit and then a new onwner in due course might be more interested in your car because he knowns the risk of a failed clutch is much reduced.

crashley

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1,568 posts

181 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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Ice27 said:
Yup, I agree with the above answers.
If your selling it, put the cheaper standard clutching.
If you were keeping it. I'd put the upgraded clutch and flywheel in.

Out if interest, what are the approximate costs of these two options, for comparison.
Standard clutch, slave cyl, flywheel etc approx £3k vs upgrade at approx £4.5k if i recall.


ds2000

2,690 posts

193 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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Upgrade the clutch and flywheel and sell it to me for a standard price wink

Seriously though, if selling, standard. While the upgraded clutch and flywheel would appeal to many it'll not add a penny to the resale price. Mods generally don't.

shunt

971 posts

226 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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Could be worth a weekend away in Macclesfield while you visit Bridge Mill.

v8woollie

4,363 posts

146 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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crashley said:
Standard clutch, slave cyl, flywheel etc approx £3k vs upgrade at approx £4.5k if i recall.
No point in fitting an upgraded clutch if you are selling as a) you won't get the benefit of enjoying it and b) you won't get any more for the car over having fitted a standard clutch.

Out of interest, how many miles did you get out of the old clutch?

crashley

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1,568 posts

181 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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v8woollie said:
No point in fitting an upgraded clutch if you are selling as a) you won't get the benefit of enjoying it and b) you won't get any more for the car over having fitted a standard clutch.

Out of interest, how many miles did you get out of the old clutch?
34.5k miles.... 1st clutch i've ever gone through, on any car. Having now checked, likely be down to regular reversing up a hill. Almost schoolboy error from what i read now!

v8woollie

4,363 posts

146 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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crashley said:
34.5k miles.... 1st clutch i've ever gone through, on any car. Having now checked, likely be down to regular reversing up a hill. Almost schoolboy error from what i read now!
Sounds like a long-life for an Aston clutch smile Reversing up hills shouldn't be an issue for a modern day clutch assembly, but in the Aston it is normally accompanied by a burning smell (which I believe is similar to the smell of burning £50 notes!). Not sure if Aston clutches are just not as good as others or if it should be an expected part of Aston ownership.

ds2000

2,690 posts

193 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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Long geared reverse apparently. I have heard near on 70mph eek

crashley

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1,568 posts

181 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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ds2000 said:
Long geared reverse apparently. I have heard near on 70mph eek
Has anyone told AM that not all their cars are made for the set of a James Bond film ??

ds2000

2,690 posts

193 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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laugh I suspect not laugh

Murph7355

37,760 posts

257 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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ds2000 said:
Long geared reverse apparently. I have heard near on 70mph eek
I've heard this too, though would assume that means people slipping the clutch to compensate?

A design flaw that must surely have been spotted during development. Unless they didn't have access to a revised ratio (how much would that have cost in the overall scheme?) or changed something else (diff ratio?) at the last minute.

OP - did you have to have the car recovered?

crashley

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1,568 posts

181 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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Murph7355 said:
I've heard this too, though would assume that means people slipping the clutch to compensate?

A design flaw that must surely have been spotted during development. Unless they didn't have access to a revised ratio (how much would that have cost in the overall scheme?) or changed something else (diff ratio?) at the last minute.

OP - did you have to have the car recovered?
Nope, managed to get it back from Goodwood to Essex without problem (didn't suffer any traffic woes), just had to be careful with it for Dartford tolls etc.

mikey k

13,011 posts

217 months

Thursday 5th July 2012
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Murph7355 said:
ds2000 said:
Long geared reverse apparently. I have heard near on 70mph eek
I've heard this too, though would assume that means people slipping the clutch to compensate?

A design flaw that must surely have been spotted during development. Unless they didn't have access to a revised ratio (how much would that have cost in the overall scheme?) or changed something else (diff ratio?) at the last minute.

OP - did you have to have the car recovered?
The reverse gear is similar to second because of limitations in the box arrangement apparently.
ASM2 gets round the limitation and reverse is more like first smile

BamfordMike

1,192 posts

158 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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crashley said:
So - it's currently booked in to my local AM who serviced it last week for a new clutch - who i hasten to add has been very competitive on price (sorry Bamford).
The price of clutch change, due to the annoying regularity the thing expires at is a much debated topic on this forum. It would helpful to the forum readership if price to replace was a well known fact - the FAQ could also be correctly updated.

Here is RRP price of parts required;
Clutch pressure plate and friction plate £956.00
Clutch slave cylinder £176.00
Flywheel £320.00
Catalyst gaskets £18.00
L/H exhaust manifold gasket £19.99
Consumables (flywheel bolts, sprays) £10.00

Total = £1499.99 excluding VAT

The additional price from this value to supply would obviously be to fit.
The book time to complete is about 10 hours (although in reality the task takes 7/8), so it will be quite easy to calculate from what is stated here how much any outfit is charging to fit the clutch.

Can you be equally as helpful and copy a breakdown of the invoice YOU ACTUALLY PAY TO DRIVE AWAY here??

crashley

Original Poster:

1,568 posts

181 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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BamfordMike said:
The price of clutch change, due to the annoying regularity the thing expires at is a much debated topic on this forum. It would helpful to the forum readership if price to replace was a well known fact - the FAQ could also be correctly updated.

Here is RRP price of parts required;
Clutch pressure plate and friction plate £956.00
Clutch slave cylinder £176.00
Flywheel £320.00
Catalyst gaskets £18.00
L/H exhaust manifold gasket £19.99
Consumables (flywheel bolts, sprays) £10.00

Total = £1499.99 excluding VAT

The additional price from this value to supply would obviously be to fit.
The book time to complete is about 10 hours (although in reality the task takes 7/8), so it will be quite easy to calculate from what is stated here how much any outfit is charging to fit the clutch.

Can you be equally as helpful and copy a breakdown of the invoice YOU ACTUALLY PAY TO DRIVE AWAY here??
No problem at all.

It was nothing against you guys, it was just that the cost of parts, labour, the fuel to get there (and risk of it possibly needing recovery), hire car for 3 days and/or hotels and finding a free long weekend etc etc... As I'm down in Essex, it was just easier to pop it down the road- albeit the bill will be c£3k all in, I say hopefully smile



DangerMonkey

587 posts

217 months

Sunday 8th July 2012
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shunt said:
Could be worth a weekend away in Macclesfield while you visit Bridge Mill.
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