Aircraft Recognition

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Vieste

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10,532 posts

162 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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Thought i would share this with you lot and any idea if they are worth much?

I have loads of themsmile


Simpo Two

85,833 posts

267 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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You've burgled Eric's house!

Vieste

Original Poster:

10,532 posts

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Monday 16th July 2012
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getmecoat

perdu

4,884 posts

201 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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I nearly got twelve of those at a boot sale in a barn for £1.60 (all the cash I had left eek)

Then he realised I may have been getting far too lucky and decided to sell them to somebody rich next time around

frown

But in answer, even specialist mags like Recognition dont often fetch much when you offer them for sale.

(Wish I still had all the ones I gave away twenty years ago)

Google them and see, you might be very lucky

Just dont expect eBay to be your friend if my experiences are owt to go by

Vieste

Original Poster:

10,532 posts

162 months

Monday 16th July 2012
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The first volume full set £180 then others that i have £60 not bad think i might just keep them.

Eric Mc

122,236 posts

267 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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I never had that many recognition books.

Indeed, I still have the few I got as a lad -

The Observers Book of Civil Aircraft and a couple of general Observers Book of Aircraft.

perdu

4,884 posts

201 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Vieste said:
The first volume full set £180 then others that i have £60 not bad think i might just keep them.
That is apalling

dammit I wish I'd had a few more bob for the guy selling the ones in Leafy Warwicks this spring

frown

If I were you there's no way they would be sold

Vieste

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162 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Oh i will not be selling themsmile

FourWheelDrift

88,722 posts

286 months

Tuesday 17th July 2012
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Did you get them from your Uncle Heinrich, who was something in the war but didn't like to talk about it?

Vieste

Original Poster:

10,532 posts

162 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Considering they were printed under the authority of H.M. stationery office in london for the MOD no.

Eric Mc

122,236 posts

267 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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The UK an Germany used the same drawings in their recognition books.

Here's the standard UK book.



I've sen the German book too and the pictures are identical.


Yertis

18,132 posts

268 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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There were some little WW2 Luftwaffe recognition models on the bay of fleas a little while back, looked quite nifty and pleasingly inaccurate.

Eric Mc

122,236 posts

267 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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The silhouettes shown in all these books are pretty ropey. Even more ropey is the propaganda boasting about how great some real clunkers are. Examples of duff aeroplanes being excessively praised are the SARO Lerwick and the Blackburn Roc.

Fat Albert

1,392 posts

183 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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When I was an Aircrew Student in the '80s (cold war era) The studes took it in turns doing the recce brief at morning prayers (daily ops and met briefing for the whole station aircrew)

Having sat through many a dull slide show dryly listing the main features of the T72 and such-like when it was my turn to present on the BTR60 & 70 armoured cars I thought I would take a different slant...

...I decided to present it in the style of a new car salesman, dividing the variants up into different models (L, GL, GLS & GT) as well as the 'Red Square' limited edition convertible with white-walls tyres and seating for 8 rather comfy-looking troops...

Most of the younger guys thought it hilarious, but it would be the one day that Staish came and sat in as he was doing his monthly currency flight that day...yet another standing-up visit to the CO's office!

perdu

4,884 posts

201 months

Wednesday 18th July 2012
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Fat Albert said:
When I was an Aircrew Student in the '80s (cold war era) The studes took it in turns doing the recce brief at morning prayers (daily ops and met briefing for the whole station aircrew)

Having sat through many a dull slide show dryly listing the main features of the T72 and such-like when it was my turn to present on the BTR60 & 70 armoured cars I thought I would take a different slant...

...I decided to present it in the style of a new car salesman, dividing the variants up into different models (L, GL, GLS & GT) as well as the 'Red Square' limited edition convertible with white-walls tyres and seating for 8 rather comfy-looking troops...

Most of the younger guys thought it hilarious, but it would be the one day that Staish came and sat in as he was doing his monthly currency flight that day...yet another standing-up visit to the CO's office!
Ah

Joint Forces Recognition Manual, or some quite similar name? Little white books...

Very useful for when I scratchbuilt my Afghan Taxi model BMP, now long ago lost to the dustbin monster dammit.



dr_gn

16,196 posts

186 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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Eric Mc said:
The silhouettes shown in all these books are pretty ropey. Even more ropey is the propaganda boasting about how great some real clunkers are. Examples of duff aeroplanes being excessively praised are the SARO Lerwick and the Blackburn Roc.
The German books are better - shaded and sometimes complete with markings rather than the simple black silhouettes of the British version. Heres a picture of one (dated 1944) I took at a German aviation museum:



The recognition models surrounding it are - of course - beautifully built complete with acetate discs for the propellers and some even had full camo and insignia.

Eric Mc

122,236 posts

267 months

Thursday 19th July 2012
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I met a Dutch chap once who showed me a recognition book that was sold to many Dutch people during the war - printed by the Germans. The illustrations were identical to those in the Penguin book.

I suppose there must have been more than one set of books.