How to drive a diesel

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ean21

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421 posts

200 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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A serious question! I've just picked up a MK4 Golf TDI. It's my first diesel. Do I drive it like a taxi - 1200rpm everywhere, or do they like a few revs to keep them clean. It seems happy enough at low revs, but I am loving it when it comes on boost, esp in 3rd :-)

I've no interest trying for another few mpg, just whatever is best to keep a TDI happy.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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ean21 said:
Do I drive it like a taxi - 1200rpm everywhere
only if you want to put the engine under strain and see a crap mpg

assuming it's a 1.9 they feel pretty happy between 1500 and 1800rpm on a light throttle

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

209 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Its good to give it a good blast on occasion. Dont drive around with the revs so low that its labouring.

cptsideways

13,551 posts

253 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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They are happy & perfectly fine to be driven like a taxi, eg low revs. They will be super eco like it, it will do no harm to it at all (diesel lumps are bombproof) however a good occasional Italian tune up will do no harm either & it will blow any loose soot from the exhaust in the process. Esp handy pre mot time wink

zedx19

2,756 posts

141 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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I've an 08 Passat TDI on nearly 100k now, most of the time trundling up and down the motorway returning 50-60mpg, gets the odd blast but its a slow diesel so never gonna get the heart racing lol my advice, drive it how you like, bulletproof engines, for best MPG, stick between 1500-1800rpm as others had said.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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If most VAG diesel drivers I've witnessed are anything to go by, the correct answer would be: "Like a c*nt."

[doffs cap]

ean21

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421 posts

200 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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I also have a Chelsea Tractor and a red 911, so I'd find it hard not to.

Rawwr said:
If most VAG diesel drivers I've witnessed are anything to go by, the correct answer would be: "Like a c*nt."

[doffs cap]

Matt UK

17,729 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Ignore the rev counter and use your man-senses.

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

209 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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ean21 said:
Im surprised that you were impressed with 3rd gear in a mk4 golf TDI, when you have a nice 911!

Willeh85

760 posts

144 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Sorry to go off topic, but clicked on your garage and wasnt expecting to read that and made me spit my drink over my monitor rofl

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ean21

Original Poster:

421 posts

200 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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my man-senses say "rev it, let the turbo spool up, then put it around 1800rpm", and I'm happy to do so. I was wondering really why everyone else (bar white van drivers) seem to chug them. I thought as a diesel-newbie maybe there was something I'm missing?

3rd doesn't really compare to the 911, but it's a pleasant surprise every time. I really like the engine. I bought it as a snotter, however I already know I will be keeping it. I need to get brave enough to do the cam-belt now!

Jeep - what else can I say. Its just appalling in every single way possible.

GT03ROB

13,268 posts

222 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Same here eek

ean21 said:
I also have a Chelsea Tractor and a red 911, so I'd find it hard not to.

Rawwr said:
If most VAG diesel drivers I've witnessed are anything to go by, the correct answer would be: "Like a c*nt."

[doffs cap]

beanbag

7,346 posts

242 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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cptsideways said:
They are happy & perfectly fine to be driven like a taxi, eg low revs. They will be super eco like it, it will do no harm to it at all (diesel lumps are bombproof) however a good occasional Italian tune up will do no harm either & it will blow any loose soot from the exhaust in the process. Esp handy pre mot time wink
Not any more they're not! I would totally agree with you that older non-common rail engines would last a lifetime but CR injectors don't go on forever and are inherently expensive to replace.

There's also another issue with modern diesels and that's particulate filters. They work by literally vaporising the particles that come from your engine but only function correctly once they've heated up enough. Short journeys for modern diesels are therefore not good for them and so giving them a good motorway blast is no bad thing as it helps keep the filters nice and clean.

Else, you end up blocking them and having them replaced which again costs a fortune.

I drive my 116d around 1600-2500 rpm and it's very happy around there. 3rd gear is my favourite and can pull me out nicely if needed from 40kph so in the city. smile

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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GT03ROB said:
Same here eek

ean21 said:
I also have a Chelsea Tractor and a red 911, so I'd find it hard not to.

Rawwr said:
If most VAG diesel drivers I've witnessed are anything to go by, the correct answer would be: "Like a c*nt."

[doffs cap]
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340600

553 posts

144 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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I've said this before on here but I've had loads of VAG TDI's and almost always ragged the nuts off them and have yet to see so much as a warning light.

The ones I have driven that felt sluggish and returned poor MPG were the ones that have been driven by the, erm, more experienced chaps at my company and have been nursed around at 1500rpm. After a few days of blasting the economy and performance seemed to improve (this is on the old PD engines).

JREwing

17,540 posts

180 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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cptsideways said:
They are happy & perfectly fine to be driven like a taxi, eg low revs. They will be super eco like it, it will do no harm to it at all (diesel lumps are bombproof) however a good occasional Italian tune up will do no harm either & it will blow any loose soot from the exhaust in the process. Esp handy pre mot time wink
This isn't generalising at all?

CapriV6S

421 posts

143 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Interesting thread. Any tips for driving 04 Ford Connect van 200t diesel?

Its been a totally 100%-reliable daily runaround for years, mainly town-work or country B-roads, but there are no motorways in my local area and it doesn't see much regular fast open-road travel.

Is sluggish but am willing to accept that for the type of vehicle if they are all like that, 136K on the clock, not serviced quite as often as Ford say it should be but it does get serviced by local car-care garage at least once a year.

I use rev-range 1200 - 3000rpm generally and prefer to torque-along rather than rev it.

Any advice appreciated, thx.

AlpineWhite

2,141 posts

196 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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If it's gotten to 136k, without major failure, I'd say "as you are".

Gruber

6,313 posts

215 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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ean21 said:
Jeep - what else can I say. Its just appalling in every single way possible.
Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.

And yet, I've had three (two 4.0s and a 2.5td). And I'd probably have another.

Terrible cars. But oddly appealing all the same.

S2Mike

3,065 posts

151 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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CapriV6S said:
Interesting thread. Any tips for driving 04 Ford Connect van 200t diesel?

Its been a totally 100%-reliable daily runaround for years, mainly town-work or country B-roads, but there are no motorways in my local area and it doesn't see much regular fast open-road travel.

Is sluggish but am willing to accept that for the type of vehicle if they are all like that, 136K on the clock, not serviced quite as often as Ford say it should be but it does get serviced by local car-care garage at least once a year.

I use rev-range 1200 - 3000rpm generally and prefer to torque-along rather than rev it.

Any advice appreciated, thx.
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We have one of these for work, no amount of thrashing servicing or long journeys will ever make it more than sluggish. I have sat waiting at junctions until my crystal ball tells me that there is nothing coming for the next 3 weeks before daring to pull out.
As for over taking, forget it, even slight gradients make it necessary to change down, even on the motorway. Should have bought a push bike instead.