moving house...heavy stuff...gravel drive...hmmm

moving house...heavy stuff...gravel drive...hmmm

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virgil

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1,557 posts

225 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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So...moving house in 3 weeks time. Going to use a company to move the house contents, but for logistical reasons I'm thinknig of moving my garage/worshop myself...7.5 toner with 1 ton tail lift is reserved...

Problem is the contents of the workshop have to go from the lorry to the Garage which is along about 70 foot of gravel drive and deep gravel too! And the drive isn't wide enough for a 7.5 tone truck to drive up to the doors.

Got a lathe (about 6-700kg)...small mill (200kg)....SOLID 10ft wooden work bench etc and 100's of kg of tools to move.

A luton van *may* fit down the drive, but the tail lift isn't man enough to lift the lathe...everything else should be fine

Most if not all will be on caster/skate boards (rated at 400kg). The lathe mill etc will bolt to the boards effectivly putting them on 3" casters.

Thinking the only option is to board out the gravel drive with 18mm ply which is gonna cost a small fortune (might as well just give the headache to a removal firm) or some form of metal channel for th casters to run in would be perfect...just needs to be cost effective...

Any thoughts, great PH gurus???

jjones

4,427 posts

194 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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use the force Luke

Morningside

24,111 posts

230 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Do you have a farm nearby? With a fork lift or teleporter?
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surveyor

17,858 posts

185 months

Landlord

12,689 posts

258 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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I'd agree with the forklift. My dad moved his lathe on a pallet.

Failing that, can you get metal "tubes" of sufficient diameter to roll it over (you know, like how the built the pyramids)


On reflection. Hire a forklift... wink

shtu

3,467 posts

147 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Telehandler would be ideal for this, and can be hired for £not much if you are rural and know someone who has one.

If you have to manual-move, go to builder's merchants and buy a few 8x4 sheets of Sterling Board (the really cheap particle-board you see used as hoardings around building sites).

Lay this over the gravel, and just move the boards along as you move the kit. Harder work but perfectly doable.

Edit - 3-4 sheets at about £8 each should do it.

Morningside

24,111 posts

230 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Come to think of it...how did you get it into the workshop in the first place?

Davel

8,982 posts

259 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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If you have a neighbour who is a farmer, put the stuff on pallets and offer him a few quid to offload them for you.

virgil

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1,557 posts

225 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Blimey...PH masses to the rescue!!

The lateh came into my house on my FIL's friend's trailor and a 'passing' skip lorry for £20 hitched it off for me onto a pallet truck (very doggy that was!). (Father in Law is no longer with us sadly so that option is out!) My house is fully block paved so to get it in the workshop was not too hard and to get it out is not an issue, it's getting it 'in or on' something...

Rolling it on metal tubes/bars IS a good idea - that's how I move it round the workshop to position it...just not so good for long distances or rough ground.

Don't live rural so don't have easy access to Farm equipment sadly. (beer money to friendly skip man is closest I get!)

Forklift / telehandler (just googled it!) would be ideal, just not easy to come by, I guess...

The sheeting idea was where I was headed, but not sure OSB would be strong enough for some of the weight...it's pretty rubbish for point loads especially if it gets damp/wet. I was also hoping not to have to keep moving the sheets to 'rebuild my road ahead of me'...

got a removal firm quoting thursday so see how much they quote...if it's not horrific, might just let them do it....

lazy_b

375 posts

237 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Would temporary road mats (ground protection mats) be an option? A quick Google search brought up some UK companies who offer them for hire by the day.

virgil

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1,557 posts

225 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Dood idea...same as the ply/osb boarding but hopefully cheaper to hire than buy (got a quote coming tomorrow morning...)

Muncher

12,219 posts

250 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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An off road forklift can be had for £170 for a day and a half, I hired one recently to move bricks.

fatboy b

9,500 posts

217 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Sounds like the OP has bought the same house as we've got. Some delivery companies flatly refuse to deliver.

mgtony

4,022 posts

191 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Do you know anyone with a recovery truck,once its on a pallet either a flatbed with winch or with a hiab would do it? I was helping someone sliding their ramps back under their truck which I said to him they're a bit stiff, he said he'd moved a lathe to a school for someone and they'd slightly bent the ramp!! Must have been some lathe, or the way they loaded it!
Could you shovel aside the gravel back solid ground just the width of a small pallet, then pallet truck it up the driveway? Might still need some form of board down but it wouldn't be as liable to move about than if it was on top of the gravel.smile

The Moose

22,867 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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timbobalob

335 posts

243 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Maybe have a look at this stuff -

http://www.gridforce.co.uk/ground-reinforcement-pr...

(apologies on iPhone and not sure of the link formatting!)

It's made for the job so you could use it on top of the gravel to move the gear, then unclick it and bed it in the drive at a later date for future use?

We're looking at using it (albeit under) the drive when we replace with gravel, so car/bikes etc don't sink

Might be unusable for your situation though!

Blakeatron

2,516 posts

174 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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why do you need to board the whole driveway surely 2 or 3 would be enough and just keep putting them infront of the pallet truck or whatever you use?

2 of us moved a 1200kg sander the other day with a pallet truck some blocks of wood and a jack. Jack up one side a bit and put a bit of wood under, then teh other side and keep going until teh truck fits under.

philmots

4,632 posts

261 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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If you are using a Luton type van to do the move just be aware of the weight you're carrying. The ones with a single wheel (on each side for the pedants) on the back may not take too much weight.

If you're overloaded and get caught it's 6 points and a chunky fine.

VxDuncan

2,850 posts

235 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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Thinking laterally, can you remove a strip of the gravel? I'm being serious, this maybe quicker if there's a solid substrate underneath. You probably don't need to remove it all, just enough so a pallet truck doesn't dig in? (ie remove the first 3 inchs of a 4 inch layer?

Coat collected.

Meeja

8,289 posts

249 months

Monday 3rd September 2012
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philmots said:
If you are using a Luton type van to do the move just be aware of the weight you're carrying. The ones with a single wheel (on each side for the pedants) on the back may not take too much weight.

If you're overloaded and get caught it's 6 points and a chunky fine.
Payload on a Luton (a transit/sprinter based one) is suprisingly low. It falls into the 3.5T catagory.... some of these vehicles (panel vans on which some Lutons are based) have payloads as low as 900kg.

A couple of burly chaps and a tank of fuel can account for 200kg of that!