Murder scene

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RVVUNM

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1,913 posts

210 months

Monday 12th November 2012
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I have had chickens for the last five years and enjoyed every moment. I have become a bit attached some may say. Two months ago I got three Indian runner ducks and was very pleased with their progress until last night. I live in the suburbs of Bristol and have been well aware that Mr Fox has always been watching my every move.
Most weekends I let my six chickens and three ducks loose in my reasonably big fenced garden and always lock them back in their fully inclosed cage before it gets dark. Last night I was distracted by visitors and delayed the door closing until 7pm and was met by total carnage and murder. My birds were all over the garden, dead, in various ripped apart states.
Once in five years I make one mistake and Mr bd Fox is in and out in a blink. He didn't take any, he just ripped their necks and heads off. Sorry to share this but be warned chicken owners, the foxes are watching.

GWC

4,423 posts

196 months

Monday 12th November 2012
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Sorry to hear this it's why I can't be sentimental about people shooting Foxes. To kill everything and take nothing away, it's just wanton.

Defcon5

6,185 posts

192 months

Monday 12th November 2012
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Why would it do that and not eat them?

RVVUNM

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1,913 posts

210 months

Monday 12th November 2012
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Foxes normally always kill everything and eat nothing. Maybe they want to come back later, so by killing everything it fills the cupboard so to speak.

SmoothCriminal

5,068 posts

200 months

Monday 12th November 2012
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Because they are vermin, heard of foxes getting into the coup and slaughtering every single hen even though max they could probably handle is 1 or 2.

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

249 months

Monday 12th November 2012
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Because you probably disturbed him as he was finishing.

Think about it, you come across a stash of food, but it's running around. You don't know how long until your next meal,and you don't mind eating week or more old flesh. What would you do? Yes, you'd kill as much as you could, as quick as you could, then try to store it somewhere.

Hard as it is, and my Dad was very upset when a fox got into his aviary, if the fox can get in, you've not made the cage secure enough, and as you admit, you hadn't locked the birds up when the fox came round.

Nature is a bd at times, and although we have a large back garden, we have lots of foxes around us, and I've seen them in our back garden in the middle of the day. So there's no way I'd have chickens or ducks in the garden. Even our rabbits live in the conservatory, got quite funny when a fox went by the window and the old rabbit squared off to it.

Japveesix

4,481 posts

169 months

Monday 12th November 2012
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Defcon5 said:
Why would it do that and not eat them?
Because it got disturb by the angry chicken owner opening the door, turning on lights etc.

IroningMan

10,154 posts

247 months

Monday 12th November 2012
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Japveesix said:
Defcon5 said:
Why would it do that and not eat them?
Because it got disturb by the angry chicken owner opening the door, turning on lights etc.
Foxes will kill everything they can reach in a situation where the prey can't get away.

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Monday 12th November 2012
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Yep, Mr Fox is just trying to secure a week or so's food supply.

He does what he does.

I'd be happy to shoot him, have a pack of hounds take him or dispatch him with the sharpish edge of a spade, though.

Japveesix

4,481 posts

169 months

Monday 12th November 2012
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IroningMan said:
Japveesix said:
Defcon5 said:
Why would it do that and not eat them?
Because it got disturb by the angry chicken owner opening the door, turning on lights etc.
Foxes will kill everything they can reach in a situation where the prey can't get away.
Yes I know. This is so they can come back later to retrieve the extra kills as they are opportunistic and so take advantage of any favourable circumstances that happen to them (such as owners not locking up their chickens).

Sad thing to happen. My neighbour (also in Bristol area) has lost his chickens two years running to foxes because he's too lazy to go out at night and lock up (not saying OP is like this). Only takes a minute for a hungry fox to have his way.

dhf

1,103 posts

195 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Once in five years I make one mistake and Mr bd Fox is in and out in a blink. He didn't take any, he just ripped their necks and heads off. Sorry to share this but be warned chicken owners, the foxes are watching.
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Foxes will patrol their patch nightly and as you have just found out,one slip up and ...

Jasandjules

69,931 posts

230 months

Tuesday 13th November 2012
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Get a live stock guardian breed dog. The fox won't get anywhere near the chickens.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,406 posts

151 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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SmoothCriminal said:
Because they are vermin, heard of foxes getting into the coup and slaughtering every single hen even though max they could probably handle is 1 or 2.
Damn them and their 300m years of evolution. To hell with their exceptional ability to adapt to changing environments and their canny ability to, like man, survive everywhere from the desert to the artic.

Perhaps the reason why we hate them so much is because they are a bit too much like ourselves for comfort?

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Because they are vermin, heard of foxes getting into the coup and slaughtering every single hen even though max they could probably handle is 1 or 2.
Damn them and their 300m years of evolution. To hell with their exceptional ability to adapt to changing environments and their canny ability to, like man, survive everywhere from the desert to the artic.

Perhaps the reason why we hate them so much is because they are a bit too much like ourselves for comfort?
Oh yes, I'm sure every farmer and smallholder who come across a gory scene of devastation takes a moment to have that philosophical discussion with themselves and decides there is no other conclusion. Or perhaps not. Who says we hate them, anyway?

omgus

7,305 posts

176 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Pothole said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Because they are vermin, heard of foxes getting into the coup and slaughtering every single hen even though max they could probably handle is 1 or 2.
Damn them and their 300m years of evolution. To hell with their exceptional ability to adapt to changing environments and their canny ability to, like man, survive everywhere from the desert to the artic.

Perhaps the reason why we hate them so much is because they are a bit too much like ourselves for comfort?
Oh yes, I'm sure every farmer and smallholder who come across a gory scene of devastation takes a moment to have that philosophical discussion with themselves and decides there is no other conclusion. Or perhaps not. Who says we hate them, anyway?
I don't hate foxes, rats or squirrels, it doesn't stop them being vermin or affect my views on shooting them.

I do fking hate pidgeons though, fat, flappy, dirty, stupid, useless, flying, disease ridden s that they are.

RVVUNM

Original Poster:

1,913 posts

210 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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I don't hate Foxes, but I hate myslf for leaving the cage door open for him to make his move.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,406 posts

151 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Pothole said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Because they are vermin, heard of foxes getting into the coup and slaughtering every single hen even though max they could probably handle is 1 or 2.
Damn them and their 300m years of evolution. To hell with their exceptional ability to adapt to changing environments and their canny ability to, like man, survive everywhere from the desert to the artic.

Perhaps the reason why we hate them so much is because they are a bit too much like ourselves for comfort?
Oh yes, I'm sure every farmer and smallholder who come across a gory scene of devastation takes a moment to have that philosophical discussion with themselves and decides there is no other conclusion. Or perhaps not. Who says we hate them, anyway?
It's the way people go on about the way they "murder" everything and then leave it. They talk in terms as if the fox is somehow doing it for a laugh to annoy chicken owners!
Murder is a legal terms anyway, it's a constuct of human society. Foxes don't commit murder, they kill stuff. And they do what they do because they are programmed that way following millions of years of evolution.

NB. THEY ARE NOT HIDING BEHIND A BUSH WATCHING THE FARMER SURVEY THE SCENE OF DEVESTATION WHILST TITTERING TO THEMSELVES.

Upatdawn

2,184 posts

149 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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They kill our chucks, we hunt them with a packs of hounds, kill them on the roads, shoot them if we can, overall i think we are winning, still a shame about the chucks tho


Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
NB. THEY ARE NOT HIDING BEHIND A BUSH WATCHING THE FARMER SURVEY THE SCENE OF DEVESTATION WHILST TITTERING TO THEMSELVES.
You can't know that for sure.



TwigtheWonderkid

43,406 posts

151 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Pothole said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
NB. THEY ARE NOT HIDING BEHIND A BUSH WATCHING THE FARMER SURVEY THE SCENE OF DEVESTATION WHILST TITTERING TO THEMSELVES.
You can't know that for sure.
This, I have to conceed, is true!