How much do you pay for your personal tax return?

How much do you pay for your personal tax return?

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flyingjase

Original Poster:

3,067 posts

232 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Just wondering how much people pay as I think I am going to move accountants and was surprised at their quote - £1000

My income is not complex so I thought it would have been less than this, or am I being tight?

s2kjock

1,693 posts

148 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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Seems expensive.

Depends on your notion of "complex" however, and also perhaps on the state the information you provide is. How soon before the filing deadline you plan to provide it may be another factor. A big firm might quote a high price if they don't really want the work / have high fixed costs to cover.

DoubleSix

11,727 posts

177 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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However you slice it, thats way OTT...

condor

8,837 posts

249 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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2nd class stamp - I do it myself via the paper method and post it 2nd class

davepoth

29,395 posts

200 months

Sunday 18th November 2012
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I do it on the internet, so free. If you keep proper accounts I can't conceive of it taking more than a day for even the most complex of returns.

sumo69

2,164 posts

221 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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I have 1 client (out of 70 approx) whose tax return fee is in 4 figures - he has multiple sources of income including foreign and rental and also has an active share portfolio for which a number of CGT calculations are needed.

If yours isn't the same then that quote is way OTT.

David

Eric Mc

122,110 posts

266 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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If I had a £ for every client who said to me, "But my affairs aren't complex", I'd be rich.

Even though the OP says his affairs aren't complex, without listing the type of information that needs to go onto his return, it is impossible to know whether his affairs are complex are not.

In addition, an accountant should do a lot more for his client than merely enter figures in boxes on a tax return. There should be an element of advice and assistance included in whatever fee is charged.

Having said all that, £1,000 would be very much on the high side for a Self Assessment tax return, even a TRULY complex one.

flyingjase

Original Poster:

3,067 posts

232 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Thanks for the input, my income is non standard but it's not exotic:-

PAYE from 2 companies

Profit share from an LLP

Dividend income

That's it

Sounds like I'm being overcharged


Eric Mc

122,110 posts

266 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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It is fairly complex actually.

Is the accountant including the preparation of partnership accounts in the fee he is quoting - or does he charge separately for completing the partnership accounts and associated partnership tax return?
How big is the partnership (partnerships can be huge - look at John Lewis)
Is the partnership a limited liability partnership?

If he is not preparing the partnership accounts and the partnership tax return, does he have to liaise with another accountant in order to get the data in respect of your share of the partnership income(which could include other information in addition to partnership profits, such as interest received on partnership bank accounts.

Sideways Rich

1,110 posts

178 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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£150
PaYE
CGT and foreign rental.

Eric Mc

122,110 posts

266 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Sideways Rich said:
£150
PaYE
CGT and foreign rental.
Are you looking for a quote?

Sideways Rich

1,110 posts

178 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Are you looking for a quote?
Lol, no, merely stating what I pay. :-)

Eric Mc

122,110 posts

266 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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What any one individual pays for their tax return is of little real help, to be honest. Peoples' circumstances vary hugely.

Do you have a CGT computation every year?
How complex was the CGT you refer to?
How complex are your PAYE affairs?
Do you receive benefits in kind?
Do you give to charities under Gift Aid?
Are you a higher rate taxpayer?

Cheib

23,304 posts

176 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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I pay somewhere between £500 and £750 for mine but it is or certainly was quite complicated and I am st at providing the information.

flyingjase

Original Poster:

3,067 posts

232 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Eric Mc said:
What any one individual pays for their tax return is of little real help, to be honest. Peoples' circumstances vary hugely.

Do you have a CGT computation every year?
How complex was the CGT you refer to?
How complex are your PAYE affairs?
Do you receive benefits in kind?
Do you give to charities under Gift Aid?
Are you a higher rate taxpayer?
The price doesn't include the LLP computations for which they want a further 2.5k.

I have only had 1 CGT calc in the last 10 years

2 PAYE 'jobs' with P60s issued and on correct tax codes for each (I'm anal about this as I don't want to get hit with a big bill at the end of year)

Yes to BIK but I get issued a p11d for this

Don't claim gift aid, I let he charities I give to claim this

Yes to higher rate Tax payer

Maybe I'm over simplifying it, but I just didn't think it was that much work


Eric Mc

122,110 posts

266 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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flyingjase said:
The price doesn't include the LLP computations for which they want a further 2.5k.

I have only had 1 CGT calc in the last 10 years

2 PAYE 'jobs' with P60s issued and on correct tax codes for each (I'm anal about this as I don't want to get hit with a big bill at the end of year)

Yes to BIK but I get issued a p11d for this

Don't claim gift aid, I let he charities I give to claim this

Yes to higher rate Tax payer

Maybe I'm over simplifying it, but I just didn't think it was that much work
On that basis, I would agree that £1,000 is too much. I would think that sub £400 would be more appropriate.

As you are a higher rate taxpayer, you should be making a separate claim on your tax return for donations made under Gift Aid (and any charity payments made under Deeds of Covenant).
Even though, as you rightly say, the charities will apply for YOUR Basic Rate Tax relief to be paid directly to them, YOU are entitled to Higher Rate Tax relief on those same donations IF you are a Higher Rate taxpayer - which you are.
So this can help you reduce your overall Self Assessment tax liability.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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1 x PAYE income
Dividends from 2 Ltd Companies
UK rental properties
Bit of property buying/selling
Savings income

Records well kept and handed to my accountant in good order.

£350

Eric Mc

122,110 posts

266 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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That sounds about right to me.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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Eric Mc said:
That sounds about right to me.
Good to know smile

Same accountant also handles accounts for my Ltd Co, they are worth their weight in gold.



JayBM

450 posts

196 months

Monday 19th November 2012
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A timely topic, was thinking of possibly changing my accountant due to cost. Last year was £450 for:

Borderline higher rate tax
1 PAYE (P60 and P11D provided)
1 UK rental (costs provided in preformatted spreadsheet)

I have a feeling it may be slightly on the high side but happy to be told otherwise.

Thanks
James