136MPH on the A436
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BBC Article
"Drivers speeding at more than 100mph are among thousands who have broken the limit on a main road in Gloucestershire, campaigners claim.
The highest speed recorded was 136mph (219km/h), on the A436 near Andoversford, says the No Crash group.
It said police data indicates 92,000 vehicles broke the speed limit on the road, across two months."
I wonder how many people were killed and how many crashes there were during the period?
136.......Must try harder
"Drivers speeding at more than 100mph are among thousands who have broken the limit on a main road in Gloucestershire, campaigners claim.
The highest speed recorded was 136mph (219km/h), on the A436 near Andoversford, says the No Crash group.
It said police data indicates 92,000 vehicles broke the speed limit on the road, across two months."
I wonder how many people were killed and how many crashes there were during the period?
136.......Must try harder
I'd like to know how many accidents occurred in those 2 months, and how many of those accidents had excessive speed as a factor (I would assume 100%). Because 92000 out of 250000 cars exceeding the speed limit (again, I assume in excess of 10% over) would suggest to me that the speed limit is not correct; this would be backed up if there were no accidents recorded, surely?
I'm not ever going to condone 136 mph on an A road, but as we see time and time again on PH, many of us believe that driving according to prevailing conditions is safer than rigidly sticking to the posted speed limit
I'm not ever going to condone 136 mph on an A road, but as we see time and time again on PH, many of us believe that driving according to prevailing conditions is safer than rigidly sticking to the posted speed limit
I was thinking this this morning. I still can't believe that in this day and age, we have fixed speed limits. So my gran, in a barely legal, barely MOTable 1980's micra*, in the snow, at night is legally allowed to travel at the same speed as a racing driver in a brand new sports car on an empty sunny stretch?
Drive to the conditions.
Drive to the conditions.
- Please note this is hypothetical, my gran no longer drives
Edited by Si_man306 on Friday 7th December 14:10
I would like to know on which stretch of the A436 this speed was attained as seems a little unlikely tbh. If it was attained then that is impressive (if that is the right word as I do not under any circumstances condone such a speed on public roads).
I'm all for driving at a speed that suit the relevant conditions but 136mph? Utterly stupid IMO.
A disaster waiting to happen I would have thought. Also be interested to know what he, or she, was driving on the day.
The mind boggles that anyone could be so stupid as to drive at that speed on that road at anytime of the day or night.
I'm all for driving at a speed that suit the relevant conditions but 136mph? Utterly stupid IMO.
A disaster waiting to happen I would have thought. Also be interested to know what he, or she, was driving on the day.
The mind boggles that anyone could be so stupid as to drive at that speed on that road at anytime of the day or night.
fatboy69 said:
I would like to know on which stretch of the A436 this speed was attained as seems a little unlikely tbh. If it was attained then that is impressive (if that is the right word as I do not under any circumstances condone such a speed on public roads).
I'm all for driving at a speed that suit the relevant conditions but 136mph? Utterly stupid IMO.
A disaster waiting to happen I would have thought. Also be interested to know what he, or she, was driving on the day.
The mind boggles that anyone could be so stupid as to drive at that speed on that road at anytime of the day or night.
Motorbikes will easy do 136 in a few seconds.I'm all for driving at a speed that suit the relevant conditions but 136mph? Utterly stupid IMO.
A disaster waiting to happen I would have thought. Also be interested to know what he, or she, was driving on the day.
The mind boggles that anyone could be so stupid as to drive at that speed on that road at anytime of the day or night.
IroningMan said:
Since the article is a) on the BBC and b) based on a press release from an anti-speeding pressure group and yet makes no mention of accidents I think we can be reasonably sure that none occurred.
kinda shoots down BRAKE's ascertation that 1mph over the speed-limit will kill you dead... that being said 138mph is just sheer stupidity - Darwinism awaiting an outcomeIroningMan said:
Since the article is a) on the BBC and b) based on a press release from an anti-speeding pressure group and yet makes no mention of accidents I think we can be reasonably sure that none occurred, it's not 'news' at all but "all those nasty speeding motorists!" propaganda on behalf of a local organisation of well meaning people who will be among the first to get caught in the now-inevitable speed enforcement exercises 
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Made a few changes for you . . Not that I'm a cynic or anything 
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Whitean3 said:
I'd like to know how many accidents occurred in those 2 months, and how many of those accidents had excessive speed as a factor (I would assume 100%). Because 92000 out of 250000 cars exceeding the speed limit (again, I assume in excess of 10% over) would suggest to me that the speed limit is not correct; this would be backed up if there were no accidents recorded, surely?
Theyre probably not all cars. The article says the data was accurate. Out of 250,000 readings, how many would you expect to be inaccurate? If you achieve 99% of good readings is that 'accurate'? Even busy-bodies rarely do something for no reason.
If they have set up a campaign group, I would imagine there is an actual or perceived problem locally with speeding and/or accidents.
It is affecting their quality of life sufficiently that a campaign group has been created to deal with the problem.
Contrary to typical PH opinion, it might be that people living on or around those roads deserve some respect and drivers should proceed more cautiously than they typically do at present?
If they have set up a campaign group, I would imagine there is an actual or perceived problem locally with speeding and/or accidents.
It is affecting their quality of life sufficiently that a campaign group has been created to deal with the problem.
Contrary to typical PH opinion, it might be that people living on or around those roads deserve some respect and drivers should proceed more cautiously than they typically do at present?
10 Pence Short said:
Even busy-bodies rarely do something for no reason.
If they have set up a campaign group, I would imagine there is an actual or perceived problem locally with speeding and/or accidents.
From what I've heard the 'problem' began when they put a 50mph limit on much of it and so led to the numbers of complaints of people exceeding the limit. There's an easy way of removing the perceived problem.If they have set up a campaign group, I would imagine there is an actual or perceived problem locally with speeding and/or accidents.
The road succeeds in bypassing most communities. It's the preferred route from Gloucester to Oxford (proposed many times for the A40 to avoid Cheltenham) and might have been the path of the M40 before they decided to head it north to Birmingham replacing the A34.
Would that have been both popular and unpopular at the same time
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