Coastal erosion disgrace - Sky news
Discussion
Its Xmas Day, (Merry Xmas one and all), and have just seen a piece on Sky News about the awful coastal erosion that is taking place on the East Yorkshire Coast.
Because of this, residents homes there are now worth £0 and they stand to lose everything. This is happening on a tide-by-tide basis in many other parts of our fine country as well.
What is the help from the government? A £6k grant for each property - TO HELP WITH DEMOLITION!
Just a question to our leaders.
Considering all the f**king £BILLIONS in foreign aid that we relentlessly pump out on a yearly basis to lands far away that are, for the most part, taking us for mugs by spending it on guns and big Mercedes - isn't it about time we spent some of it protecting our OWN people's interests!
It's just a matter of basic engineering (piles with defences) and looking after your own (for once).
It would cost, but no where near as much as the very questionable High Speed 2 project, and would create employment.
Get on with it before there's nothing or nobody left to erode!
Because of this, residents homes there are now worth £0 and they stand to lose everything. This is happening on a tide-by-tide basis in many other parts of our fine country as well.
What is the help from the government? A £6k grant for each property - TO HELP WITH DEMOLITION!
Just a question to our leaders.
Considering all the f**king £BILLIONS in foreign aid that we relentlessly pump out on a yearly basis to lands far away that are, for the most part, taking us for mugs by spending it on guns and big Mercedes - isn't it about time we spent some of it protecting our OWN people's interests!
It's just a matter of basic engineering (piles with defences) and looking after your own (for once).
It would cost, but no where near as much as the very questionable High Speed 2 project, and would create employment.
Get on with it before there's nothing or nobody left to erode!
citizensm1th said:
I am reminded of King Canute by this post
tell me what happens when you place sea defences at one point of the coast?
will it
A. move the erosion further allong the coast
B. solve the problem?
This. There is no magic solution, unless you wall the entire coastline. Unfortunately people buy homes on flood plains, in avalanche areas, and so on. Nature happens. tell me what happens when you place sea defences at one point of the coast?
will it
A. move the erosion further allong the coast
B. solve the problem?
Cobnapint said:
It's just a matter of basic engineering (piles with defences) and looking after your own (for once).
It would cost, but no where near as much as the very questionable High Speed 2 project, and would create employment.
Get on with it before there's nothing or nobody left to erode!
I'm not convinced that is the solution.It would cost, but no where near as much as the very questionable High Speed 2 project, and would create employment.
Get on with it before there's nothing or nobody left to erode!
I also don't think HS2 is questionable.
A better option would be to relocate the affected people to areas of greater stability.
Dear government,
Whilst you are wasting all this money on frivolities such as high speed rail and the NHS, my life and all that I've worked for is rapidly being ruined by the environment. It is an outrage that so much is being spent on mythical bulls and liberal bummings whilst you cannot even supply heatproof wax to your own citizens.
Yours sincerely,
Icarus
Whilst you are wasting all this money on frivolities such as high speed rail and the NHS, my life and all that I've worked for is rapidly being ruined by the environment. It is an outrage that so much is being spent on mythical bulls and liberal bummings whilst you cannot even supply heatproof wax to your own citizens.
Yours sincerely,
Icarus
You've either been on the sherry early, or just up for an argument.citizensm1th said:
I am reminded of King Canute by this post
King Canute is much misunderstood. His people thought he was all powerful, but he knew he wasn't. So he took them down to the sea and commanded the tide to stop, knowing full well that it wouldn't, to demonstrate to his people the limitations of his power.So cut him some slack.
TwigtheWonderkid said:
citizensm1th said:
I am reminded of King Canute by this post
King Canute is much misunderstood. He people thought he was all powerful, but he knew he wasn't. So he took them down to the sea and commanded the tide to stop, knowing full well that it wouldn't, to demonstrate to his people the limitations of his power.So cut him some slack.
High Speed 2 is in no way questionable. The woman has popped up on Sky News now saying she'll have nothing to give her kids, it just seemed like someone wanting the government to bail them out and throw money at them for their bad choices, nothing more. If the government bailed out everyone that made bad decisions we'd be a trillion £s in debt...
Johnnytheboy said:
IIRC the whole country is very slowly rotating about its north-south axis, so the East Coast is going to get lower forever and the West Coast higher.
So as above, you can't stop erosion forever. Best to concentrate limited resources where they'll do most good.
Err. Not quite. Easton Bavents near Southwold (just down from Lowestoft) has been facing massive erosion for many years. They (the council) are trying to have some homes build to 'compensate' BUT they are facing massive local opposition. So as above, you can't stop erosion forever. Best to concentrate limited resources where they'll do most good.
The laugh is that a local man Mr Boggis has spent millions of his own money to help protect the cliff. And the answer by the Council? Yup, take him to the high court to force him to STOP!!
Now they are backing him because the sea may come round the back and flood Southwold.
What I have never understood is the stupid d
head who purchased a home in 2005! Was she blind?http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-12958...
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/coastal_erosion_meetin...
Edited by Morningside on Tuesday 25th December 10:35
This were all fields when I were a lad. http://goo.gl/maps/9V24R
Strictly speaking not all fields, coastal road, a load of bungalows, a pile of caravans, a cafe and a whop off car park for day trippers.
The cliff line 55 years ago was somewhere beyond the breaking waves in the picture. Then the beach had many ex cliff top WW2 bunkers that had fallen into the sea, so it's not a new thing, which is why property is so cheap. Even some property that appears to be a long way inland, isn't that far from becoming a problem in not so many years.
Strictly speaking not all fields, coastal road, a load of bungalows, a pile of caravans, a cafe and a whop off car park for day trippers.
The cliff line 55 years ago was somewhere beyond the breaking waves in the picture. Then the beach had many ex cliff top WW2 bunkers that had fallen into the sea, so it's not a new thing, which is why property is so cheap. Even some property that appears to be a long way inland, isn't that far from becoming a problem in not so many years.
Don't buy a house in an area of coastal erosion, don't buy a house built on a flood plain, don't buy a house next to a main road or train line, don't buy a house next to a sewage works, don't buy a house next to a race track if you don't like the noise, etc. And if you do buy any such house, why on earth is it anyone's fault but your own?
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