Just got a Fluval Edge tank. Stock?

[Ritchie335is]

I'm looking for an idiots guide really, tank filled, correct quantities of chemical added.
The plan is now, to monitor temperature, wait a couple of days and the get some livestock!
Initially I wanted some crabs, shrimps and a few fish but after reading up on some of the forums it seems that the crabs are more bother than they are worth.
I still want shrimps though, and I was thinking a group of small fish and maybe one or two bigger ones.
Can anyone point me in the right direction, I'm a bit lost with this sort of stuff. It not nuts and bolts!
Cheers.

[XG332]

Research cycling the tank.
Get the water tested before adding fish too.

Good luck

[ducgas]

Please have a look at some of the tropical fish forums for proper advice. Your fish will more than likely die unless you let the tank cycle for a lot longer than a few days,. Other alternative to help speed things up is to get some filter material from someone else's tank to place in with the new filter in the back of the tank. When you do get fish just buy a few at a time.Where about's are you located? I can give you some filter material if you're local to me.

[Ritchie335is]

I did get very bogged down with all the stuff on the forums about cycling the tank for up to 6 weeks! wtf!
The chap in the shop and the Fluval manual do state that you can plonk fish in after a day or two.
If I can help it I don't want to spend the rest of my life worrying about my water hardness and Ph levels.
But if you guys reckon I have to wait then that's fairynuff.

ETA, Ducgas, thanks for the offer. I'm about as far away as I can get from you.
Cheers anyway.

Edited by Ritchie335is on Thursday 31st January 21:37

Edited by Ritchie335is on Thursday 31st January 21:37

[S6 Devil]

I would leave it a week or two then add a fish. I would go for a Siamese fighter (male) and maybe a bristlenose pleco. You can only keep one male fighter in a tank otherwise they will kill each other.
After a week or so you could add something like a small shoal of white cloud mountain minnows or danios.

Siamese fighter


Siamese fighter


Bristlenose pleco


White cloud mountain minnows


Danio

[Ritchie335is]

That sounds good, thanks. Will they get along with the few shrimps I have planned?

[S6 Devil]

p.s You could still have shrimps with these fish as well.

[Ritchie335is]

Are all shrimp the same to keep or are there some nasty, killer barstewards best avoided?
How about quantities? Its a 46L tank.
Great info, thanks.

[S6 Devil]

I've never kept shrimp but do keep Siamese fighters and have kept most other freshwater fish. I don't think there are any that are problematic.

Have a look here: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/inv/freshwatershri...

In a 46l tank, you could have 1 male Siamese fighter, 1 bristlenose pleco. 5-6 shrimp, 5-6 tetras, 5-6 white clouds AND 5-6 danios. You could also add a Corydoras and an Otocinclus or Golden loach.

Corydoras


Otocinclus


Golden loach


Quite tempted by one of those Fluval Edge tanks myself...very nice!
Good luck. Fish keeping can be very addictive. I have 5 tanks at present and love them.

Edited by S6 Devil on Thursday 31st January 22:53

[S6 Devil]

p.s. Lots of ideas here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzOJjmXjeH8

[HerrSchnell]

Have a look at the aqadvisor stock calculator to check to see if your set up will be OK when you have some fish in mind:

http://aqadvisor.com/

One of the limiting factors is the amount of surface area available for oxygen exchange so sticking the measurements of the tank and details of your filter into the calculator will give a better idea than going off the volume of water the tank holds.

And please disregard the advice the fish shop have given you and look into the fishless method of cycling. If not for the sake of the fish then for your own, it will be pretty frustrating being restricted choosing to fish which can tolerate ammonia spikes and then losing most of them anyway.

[832ark]

White Cloud Mountain minnows and danios are totally unsuitable for this tank as they plenty of swimming space. I'd suggest a small shoal of harlequin rasbora a couple of ottocinclus and some shrimp and leave it at that. These tanks are pretty rubbish for keeping fish due to their tiny surface area and are also difficult to clean. You will need to keep adding a source of ammonia for 5/6 weeks to cycle the tank and will need to be carrying out regular water tests to see how the cycle is progressing. Google fish less cycle.

[S6 Devil]

832ark said:

White Cloud Mountain minnows and danios are totally unsuitable for this tank as they plenty of swimming space.

Rubbish! White cloud and danios would be fine in this tank.

Have a read of the product description.

Product Description
Fluval Edge Aquarium 46 Litre Gloss Black
The New Fluval Edge Aquarium in 46 Litres has the same footprint as the standard 23 litre model so it won't take up extra space but the double height allows more room for creative aquascaping, a larger viewing area to enjoy the beauty of the aquarium and allowing more room for fish.

The new Fluval Edge comes complete with a completely re-designed lighting system. Super bright LED bulbs with a 7600k spectrum create a strong, white light. A flick of a switch activates night mode, where 3 blue LEDs cast a cool moonlight glow over your aquascape, perfect as a night-light.

The Fluval Edge comes complete with the 6 sided Aquarium with base for brilliant allround viewing, Aquarium filter with filter media, Nutrafin Aquaplus 30ml water conditioner, Nutrafin Cylce Biological Aquarium Supplement 30ml x2, and a User Guide.

The filter contains mechanical, chemical and biogical filtration, the Foam Filter traps particles and debris, the Carbon Insert adsorbs odours, discolourations and impurities while the Biomax Insert expands the biological capacity.

The Fluval Edge Aquarium is easy to set up and maintain with the removable cover for easy aquarium and filter access.

The 46 Litre Fluval Edge measures 43cm wide, 59.4cm high and 26cm from front to back.

Fluval Edge friendly species include White Cloud Mountain Minnows, Betta Splendens, Barbs, Danios, small fantail Goldfish, Crystal Red Shrimps, Snails. Remember, Goldfish in particular grow so will need to be moved to a larger tank to allow them room for growth

[otolith]

I remember seeing an unusual tank with danios in it - unusually long, narrow and shallow with a big external filter creating a very strong current along it. You might want to add a powerhead if you are keeping small species from fast flowing streams.

[HerrSchnell]

Noticed today that my local aquatics shop has one of these tanks on the counter.

It's quite heavily planted and has about half a dozen Cardinal Tetras and half a dozen White Cloud Mountain Minnows in.

[832ark]

S6 Devil said:

Rubbish! White cloud and danios would be fine in this tank.

Have a read of the product description.

Product Description
Fluval Edge Aquarium 46 Litre Gloss Black
The New Fluval Edge Aquarium in 46 Litres has the same footprint as the standard 23 litre model so it won't take up extra space but the double height allows more room for creative aquascaping, a larger viewing area to enjoy the beauty of the aquarium and allowing more room for fish.

The new Fluval Edge comes complete with a completely re-designed lighting system. Super bright LED bulbs with a 7600k spectrum create a strong, white light. A flick of a switch activates night mode, where 3 blue LEDs cast a cool moonlight glow over your aquascape, perfect as a night-light.

The Fluval Edge comes complete with the 6 sided Aquarium with base for brilliant allround viewing, Aquarium filter with filter media, Nutrafin Aquaplus 30ml water conditioner, Nutrafin Cylce Biological Aquarium Supplement 30ml x2, and a User Guide.

The filter contains mechanical, chemical and biogical filtration, the Foam Filter traps particles and debris, the Carbon Insert adsorbs odours, discolourations and impurities while the Biomax Insert expands the biological capacity.

The Fluval Edge Aquarium is easy to set up and maintain with the removable cover for easy aquarium and filter access.

The 46 Litre Fluval Edge measures 43cm wide, 59.4cm high and 26cm from front to back.

Fluval Edge friendly species include White Cloud Mountain Minnows, Betta Splendens, Barbs, Danios, small fantail Goldfish, Crystal Red Shrimps, Snails. Remember, Goldfish in particular grow so will need to be moved to a larger tank to allow them room for growth

Totally disagree I'm afraid. Certainly they wouldn't be recommended on the fora I frequent. They're both active swimmers and need plenty of space.

http://www.fishkeeping.co.uk/modules/caresheets/ca...
http://www.fishkeeping.co.uk/modules/caresheets/ca...

[Ritchie335is]

So far I have found that lots of people give conflicting advice, I wish I had never started out on this!
Tanks gone cloudy over the last couple of days, I presume this is bacterial bloom and will pass over time.
I will pick up a test kit today and see how it's doing.

[832ark]

Yes you certainly do get conflicting advice. Personally I'd tend to go with the consensus of advice on a fishkeeping forum as opposed to a manufacturer or a shop. It sounds like a bacterial bloom. What chemicals exactly have you added?

[megapixels83]

In a small tank like that I would keep endlers, golden apple snail and some nice shrimp like cherry reds and crystals.

You will have movement in the tank and the snail and shrimp will be good to watch

[otolith]

My smallest tank is 60 litres and has five barred barbs, dwarf rainbowfish and glass catfish. I don't think I would go smaller with the glass cats, but the barbs and rainbowfish would probably work.