Weird starting problem on 06 Mazda 3

Weird starting problem on 06 Mazda 3

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dnb

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3,330 posts

244 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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I'm running out of ideas regarding an intermittent non-starting problem on my Outlaw's Mazda 3.

It sits several days between being used, and always starts first time from outside the house as you'd expect from a modern car. However, on 2 occasions now, it's been left at their destination (15 to 20 minute drive away) for at most a couple of hours and then it refuses to start. No cranking, but the fuel pump primes and immobilizer disengages - it's as if the battery has suddenly turned flat or the starter has become a dead short. I have got them home both times by jump starting the car with our Range Rover, and after that, the battery seems to recover after a couple of minutes of idle such that the car restarts without issue. Until the next time...

I have used a load tester on the battery and it pronounced it healthy. (But I have not load tested the battery just before the car is confirmed to be playing up - time travel is not in my gift)

I have checked the alternator is charging and the regulator is working.

I have not checked for excessive starter current yet - again, since I can't make the fault happen on demand, this test would not show a problem.

I have checked all the physical connections, relays, etc, and they look to be good.

I'm at a loss as to what the problem might be, and how to diagnose it, short of borrowing the car and driving it to work until it fails with a more permanent fault. It's perplexing - none of the usual suspects seem to be at fault.

Anyone have any ideas?

stevieturbo

17,311 posts

249 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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If it doesnt crank and the battery is sound, then surely the starter or related items would be the obvious thing to check ?
Or main earth to starter etc ?

dnb

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3,330 posts

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Saturday 16th March 2013
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I believe I have checked the obvious things (battery, starter, relays, solenoid & cabling). There's nothing wrong with them when I look - although I have not managed to look at any of them when the car is in its failure mode because it's usually parked somewhere inconvenient.

stevieturbo

17,311 posts

249 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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And is that the only location the problem occurs ? And is it the same location every time ?

Years ago a friend had an Evo, and if he parked it too near one of the electric companies transformers near a friends house, it fked his immobiliser up and the car wouldnt start. He had to two the car a short distance away before it would go again.

Although that was a very unusual scenario and a crappy clifford

dnb

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244 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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It's been 2 different locations so far. No substations or phone base stations in the immediate vicinity that I've noticed. Plus we've always been able to jump start the car without moving it.

stevieturbo

17,311 posts

249 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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If it jumps, then it sounds like a wiring/starter/charging/battery problem..

Try a new battery

dnb

Original Poster:

3,330 posts

244 months

Saturday 16th March 2013
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I was resisting buying a new battery since the car can sit unused nearly all week and start fine, but after a short drive sometimes will not work at all. I do agree there's something weird going on, and I suspect the starter can get itself in a position where it won't engage, therefore uses excessive current to achieve nothing.