Local development - parking provision concerns

Local development - parking provision concerns

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ajhmini

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133 posts

171 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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I've just had notice through the door of a planned development of a house opposite. It's a 4 story Victorian property which was converted to a small school. It's now being converted back in to residential, a total of 7 flats (four 1 beds and three 2 beds) and a further two semi detached 2 bed houses at the end of the back garden.

The conversion of the property to flats it's no issue, the extra houses aren't ideal but not that bothered by them, but my real issue is the parking - they're only planning 9 parking spaces - one per property. Problem is, this is a cramped Victorian/Edwardian street with no driveways or garages so all parking is on street and the roads are at max capacity.

Does anyone have any experience of this and on what grounds we should object - is there a standard requirement for parking on new developments or some other guidance that we could quote?

Cheers
Andy

Chrisgr31

13,488 posts

256 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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I feat that you will find that the development already conforms to guidance on parking. Modern developments never have enough parking for the real world.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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Check the link
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/general/news/stor...


Click read the letter at the bottom, go into the archived link for a bit of info.

Max parking standards removed, now down to local authority planning policy etc

Pit Pony

8,655 posts

122 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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By saving 9 spaces, they can get in another house. Thus making how much extra profit? Object anyway.

barryrs

4,392 posts

224 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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sjg

7,454 posts

266 months

Thursday 22nd January 2015
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How many small flats will actually have two or more cars each? Seems rare in my experience unless they're building a load of flats miles from town/city or public transport.

Is the street permit controlled? Councils generally won't allow residents of developments like this to get them if each property has a parking space already.

Yazar

1,476 posts

121 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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sjg said:
How many small flats will actually have two or more cars each? Seems rare in my experience unless they're building a load of flats miles from town/city or public transport.
A brave assumption to make. Even in Greater London where public transport can be amazing you still end up with parking issues on new developments.

Latest thing is the token gesture of cycle parking to please the council lefties!!


OP- get all your neighbors involved, number of possible pissed off voters who won't vote for them in future will matter to the elected bods.

The jiffle king

6,917 posts

259 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Object for over development of the site as well.
Look at the highways impact and traffic movements and also if the cars can actually turn in the site.
Read your local regs and specify the regs when objecting

0a

23,902 posts

195 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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If they added more parking they would be more likely to have the application fail

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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one per property

I thought that was the legal maximum


blueg33

35,991 posts

225 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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McWigglebum4th said:
one per property

I thought that was the legal maximum
It used to be a factor in PPG3 and PPS3 (National Planning Policy Guidance), these have effectively gone away, and parking standards are most likely to be goverened by Local policies, SPG (supplemenatry planning guidance, a Local quasi policy), and officer opinion.

I just lost an application on a block of 18 apartments because it only had 20 parking spaces, even though the occupants we have are not allowed to drive (adults with learning disabilities). That one was down to officer opinion and objectors pressure.

sjg

7,454 posts

266 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Yazar said:
A brave assumption to make. Even in Greater London where public transport can be amazing you still end up with parking issues on new developments.

Latest thing is the token gesture of cycle parking to please the council lefties!!
I've lived in four different flats in the last 6 years, if it's had parking at all then it's no more than one space per flat. A few friends live in recent developments where there are fewer parking spaces than flats (or even none at all like the ones by the Emirates stadium), and you can't get on-street parking permits for them either.

Parking on the poster's road is a separate problem - if there are non-residents parking there (or excessive cars per household) then the only real solution is a permit system.

ajhmini

Original Poster:

133 posts

171 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Thanks for the replies. It's in Leamington Spa - It's a fairly affluent area, not close to the train station and public transport isn't brilliant so the majority of properties (even 1 beds) have two vehicles. There's no permits on this road but there is controlled parking in the close vicinity. A parking survey's been done which showed that there's no on-road parking spare during evenings/overnight (not a single spare space on adjacent roads) but they're stating that on-road parking further away from the property is sufficient - the parking they're referring to is on a main road that nobody parks on because it's too busy, narrow and there's bus stops etc.

It's bizarre that there's a maximum number of parking spaces allowed on new developments - what is the logic of that? Just to try and influence people not to buy cars?

blueg33

35,991 posts

225 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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At least the Committee in Leamington Spa are generally anti development!

If its a Victorian property, its highly likely to be near enough to the town centre to be consididered as sustainable and will not therefore require loads of parking spaces.

is it conservation area? the conservation officer is a bloke called Alan Mayes, you could have a chat to him about the impact on the conservation area of additional on street parking.