Monaro VXR seats loose
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I've tried looking up the issue but I haven't found any mention of it. Both front seats in my Monaro appear to be slightly loose, the passenger side is worse. It's quite noticeable under firm braking.
I'm about to go and investigate to see if I can find where the movement is coming from but if anyone else has had the problem and solved it, it might save me some time.
Cheers.
I'm about to go and investigate to see if I can find where the movement is coming from but if anyone else has had the problem and solved it, it might save me some time.
Cheers.
Ignore me, found the solution: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=138...
I went to Vauxhall and ordered two seat track dampers, one for each seat. I then ordered some special glue!from the internet.
I haven't got the part numbers at the moment, ( I have had too much beer!) but I will try and dig them out over the next couple of days.
Its not a perfect fix, but way better than the fore and aft movement I had on my seats.
regards John
I haven't got the part numbers at the moment, ( I have had too much beer!) but I will try and dig them out over the next couple of days.
Its not a perfect fix, but way better than the fore and aft movement I had on my seats.
regards John
mfp4073 said:
I went to Vauxhall and ordered two seat track dampers, one for each seat. I then ordered some special glue!from the internet.
I haven't got the part numbers at the moment, ( I have had too much beer!) but I will try and dig them out over the next couple of days.
Its not a perfect fix, but way better than the fore and aft movement I had on my seats.
regards John
Thanks, that would be great if you could. The movement seems to be some play on the actual track itself. Almost like the cog has worn or something as the track looks fine.I haven't got the part numbers at the moment, ( I have had too much beer!) but I will try and dig them out over the next couple of days.
Its not a perfect fix, but way better than the fore and aft movement I had on my seats.
regards John
Andy616,
Ok,the seats on my 05 CV8 would move forward slightly when I braked, and back slightly when I hit the gas pedal. They also had a rough motion when I moved them back or forward using the electric motors.
This is a rough guide as to how I fixed them,
You will need a seat track damper from Vauxhall, part number, 92138926, it might be listed as v0092138926. This is a special order part. one per seat. They were around £28:00 each.
Some loctite 680 retaining compound.. a heavy duty green glue..I ordered mine off E-bay
I moved the seat backwards to around the half way mark, I then moved the seat up using the electric height switch.
There are two nuts at the front of the seat, undo these and let the seat tilt back slowly. You might find that you have an earthing spring there, so take that off.
I also used a dust sheet on the seat back to stop it getting damaged.
When the seat is tilted back look out for the wires, I think there was a plastic tray which I moved out the way. You will be left with the seat sub frame still in place with all the electric motors.
look at the drive shaft which has the back and forward electric motor fitted. This runs across the seat frame, from left to right.
This shaft has a groove in it.This is the one we will be working on. Make sure the groove is at the top so you can see it.
The track damper is a metal T-piece with a serrated edge, it comes with two plastic friction pads.
Take the damper and fit the friction pads to the T-piece, they may fall out a few times.
Place the serrated T-piece on the fixed part of the sub frame next to the center console,the friction pads have to sit either side of the seat drive shaft and they act like a brake.
This is the hard bit...you need to force the T-piece down so the serrated edge is super tight on the sub frame. At the same time the friction pads have to be seated correctly,one to the front and one to the rear of the drive shaft...these are a pain... Do Not hit them with hammer..or they will break ....I used an extension bar from my socket set and levered it on.
Just make sure everything is lined up before press the damper fully home.
Next you need to take some Loctite 680 and fill up the groove on the shaft, it allows the damper to run smoother.
I think I put some loctite on both ends of the drive shaft where there was a bit of play. Make sure you get that bit right as you really don't want lock the seat in position!!!!!
Make sure you have some newspaper covering the carpet for any dripping glue.
Leave the glue to set for a couple of hours then bolt the seat back down.
Hopefully that should cure most of the slack in the seat.
Regards John
Ok,the seats on my 05 CV8 would move forward slightly when I braked, and back slightly when I hit the gas pedal. They also had a rough motion when I moved them back or forward using the electric motors.
This is a rough guide as to how I fixed them,
You will need a seat track damper from Vauxhall, part number, 92138926, it might be listed as v0092138926. This is a special order part. one per seat. They were around £28:00 each.
Some loctite 680 retaining compound.. a heavy duty green glue..I ordered mine off E-bay
I moved the seat backwards to around the half way mark, I then moved the seat up using the electric height switch.
There are two nuts at the front of the seat, undo these and let the seat tilt back slowly. You might find that you have an earthing spring there, so take that off.
I also used a dust sheet on the seat back to stop it getting damaged.
When the seat is tilted back look out for the wires, I think there was a plastic tray which I moved out the way. You will be left with the seat sub frame still in place with all the electric motors.
look at the drive shaft which has the back and forward electric motor fitted. This runs across the seat frame, from left to right.
This shaft has a groove in it.This is the one we will be working on. Make sure the groove is at the top so you can see it.
The track damper is a metal T-piece with a serrated edge, it comes with two plastic friction pads.
Take the damper and fit the friction pads to the T-piece, they may fall out a few times.
Place the serrated T-piece on the fixed part of the sub frame next to the center console,the friction pads have to sit either side of the seat drive shaft and they act like a brake.
This is the hard bit...you need to force the T-piece down so the serrated edge is super tight on the sub frame. At the same time the friction pads have to be seated correctly,one to the front and one to the rear of the drive shaft...these are a pain... Do Not hit them with hammer..or they will break ....I used an extension bar from my socket set and levered it on.
Just make sure everything is lined up before press the damper fully home.
Next you need to take some Loctite 680 and fill up the groove on the shaft, it allows the damper to run smoother.
I think I put some loctite on both ends of the drive shaft where there was a bit of play. Make sure you get that bit right as you really don't want lock the seat in position!!!!!
Make sure you have some newspaper covering the carpet for any dripping glue.
Leave the glue to set for a couple of hours then bolt the seat back down.
Hopefully that should cure most of the slack in the seat.
Regards John
I'm only talking from experience with different seats here, but they were previously just aftermarket seats bolted to the existing electric subframe.
After a couple of years I start to get a bit of play forwards and backwards too.
As the seat is height / tilt adjustable etc. the mounting brackets are able to rotate in order to hold the seat in its variety of positions. When my driver's seat started to move a bit, I raised it up to maximum height (allows access to the bolts that hold the seat to the subframe) and had a look underneath.
The bolts for the front two mounting arms had loosened a little over time, and this is what introduced the play. It seems that effectively the seat base itself prevents the pairs of mounting arms front and rear from being able to move independently of each other, if the bolts loosen and allow play from the seat, that can introduce some movement fore and aft.
I've since gone to manual runners on a different subframe (it's about 2 inches lower, it's brilliant!) so everything is bolted down extremely tightly now
After a couple of years I start to get a bit of play forwards and backwards too.
As the seat is height / tilt adjustable etc. the mounting brackets are able to rotate in order to hold the seat in its variety of positions. When my driver's seat started to move a bit, I raised it up to maximum height (allows access to the bolts that hold the seat to the subframe) and had a look underneath.
The bolts for the front two mounting arms had loosened a little over time, and this is what introduced the play. It seems that effectively the seat base itself prevents the pairs of mounting arms front and rear from being able to move independently of each other, if the bolts loosen and allow play from the seat, that can introduce some movement fore and aft.
I've since gone to manual runners on a different subframe (it's about 2 inches lower, it's brilliant!) so everything is bolted down extremely tightly now
Andy616 said:
Thanks guys, it's very much appreciated. I think I'm going to have to take the seat off the rails to see where the movement is coming from and if the track dampers will help.
If all else fails I might get drastic and start looking at after-market solutions.
If you raise the seat right up and back, then it does give you quite a lot of footwell room to get in there and have a look under it.If all else fails I might get drastic and start looking at after-market solutions.
I only suggest that as it'll be easier to rock things back and forward if the seat is still attached, both for the extra purchase and because the weight of the seat will help wobble things about
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