Burning the perfect audio CD
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As a fully paid up member of Napster (cracking by the way) I have downloaded quite a few tracks / albums. However, looking to burn them onto a CD for play in the car (perfectly legal).
But, no matter what I try, I just cant seem to get a whole album to play correctly. Either tracks are missing, you get tiny "clicks" of white noise, or several tracks just jump frequently....
I have this on two machines - one using a NEC DVDRW/CDRW and the other using a Pioneer DVDRM/CDRW. Both good quality burners and I have always used Nero in the past. Doesnt seem to make much difference using a slower burn speed.
Any suggestions for the perfect audio CD burn?
But, no matter what I try, I just cant seem to get a whole album to play correctly. Either tracks are missing, you get tiny "clicks" of white noise, or several tracks just jump frequently....
I have this on two machines - one using a NEC DVDRW/CDRW and the other using a Pioneer DVDRM/CDRW. Both good quality burners and I have always used Nero in the past. Doesnt seem to make much difference using a slower burn speed.
Any suggestions for the perfect audio CD burn?
This doesn't sound right at all.
In spite of initial misigivngs a few years ago, I'd rate Nero as the best, bar none. Coupled with WMP10, its unbeatable.
Have you tried different media?
What speed PC? I say this because this humble little desktop is only a Duron CPU; when I burn on it I have to lay off it for a bit and give Nero the CPU. No doubt a faster PC would be better.
O/S?
Give us some more info mate, lets see what we can do for you.
Greg
In spite of initial misigivngs a few years ago, I'd rate Nero as the best, bar none. Coupled with WMP10, its unbeatable.
Have you tried different media?
What speed PC? I say this because this humble little desktop is only a Duron CPU; when I burn on it I have to lay off it for a bit and give Nero the CPU. No doubt a faster PC would be better.
O/S?
Give us some more info mate, lets see what we can do for you.
Greg
GregE240 said:
I would like to suggest and ipod and itrip.
cds......ill never go back.
Helpful.
Your cars not running properly? Buy another.
Thanks for your contribution.
no, im just saying that with that combo you can stick all the thousands of songs you may have on it and have easy access and they never have any problems while playing like he seems to be having with the burnt cd's.
off_again said:
But, no matter what I try, I just cant seem to get a whole album to play correctly. Either tracks are missing, you get tiny "clicks" of white noise, or several tracks just jump frequently....
Is the problem when you play the CD in the car, or on the burners that cut the disc?
Ediited to say : CD-R's or CD-RW's?
>> Edited by ThatPhilBrettGuy on Thursday 17th February 10:52
Right, some answers - access to web a little difficult, but possible:
CD-R's - mixture of Memorex or Philips though not necessarily premium
PC - 1GB RAM, 2GB AMD processor and a fair lick of speed
Nero - not sure of the version, but its about 6 months old and the SmartStart version
Burn speed - both of the burners that I have are high speed jobbies, you know 8xDVD-R and 32xCD-R. Have tried dropping the speed down to about 12x but still get the occassional drop-outs.
A friend at work talked about the strength of a laser in the CD player in the car, but not sure myself. From what I understand, older CD players (in cars) may simply not have the support or accuracy for a burned CD, but the problem is that I get this on my 2004 Honda and a Blaupunkt fitted to another car. Both pretty consistent though break up at different points. Obviously playing the burned CD on a normal PC works perfectly.....
Any recommended quality media brands? I tend to stay well clear of the really cheap ones, any any suggested ones would be good.
Oh, and does dropping the burn speed make much difference? I guess the accuracy of the burn is better, but surely it shouldnt finish with no errors if it didnt burn right? (or am I forgetting that this is a computer again?).
Oh, one final point - does it make any difference to finalise or not when burning? I tend not to, simply cos I am lazy and forget, but dont know if this makes any difference....
Thanks for the help by the way....
>> Edited by off_again on Thursday 17th February 11:47
CD-R's - mixture of Memorex or Philips though not necessarily premium
PC - 1GB RAM, 2GB AMD processor and a fair lick of speed
Nero - not sure of the version, but its about 6 months old and the SmartStart version
Burn speed - both of the burners that I have are high speed jobbies, you know 8xDVD-R and 32xCD-R. Have tried dropping the speed down to about 12x but still get the occassional drop-outs.
A friend at work talked about the strength of a laser in the CD player in the car, but not sure myself. From what I understand, older CD players (in cars) may simply not have the support or accuracy for a burned CD, but the problem is that I get this on my 2004 Honda and a Blaupunkt fitted to another car. Both pretty consistent though break up at different points. Obviously playing the burned CD on a normal PC works perfectly.....
Any recommended quality media brands? I tend to stay well clear of the really cheap ones, any any suggested ones would be good.
Oh, and does dropping the burn speed make much difference? I guess the accuracy of the burn is better, but surely it shouldnt finish with no errors if it didnt burn right? (or am I forgetting that this is a computer again?).
Oh, one final point - does it make any difference to finalise or not when burning? I tend not to, simply cos I am lazy and forget, but dont know if this makes any difference....
Thanks for the help by the way....
>> Edited by off_again on Thursday 17th February 11:47
Burn speed does help. The lower the better. I'd try it (it's going to be painful) at 1X.
Car players are really hit and miss then it comes to CD-R's. My (quite modern) Sony M9900 plays all the CD-R's I've ever fed it, but it won't touch CD-RW's. The Sony CX680 of the same age (or something like that) hated both.
Unless it actually states in the manual that the player supports CD-R's I think you might be buggered.
Car players are really hit and miss then it comes to CD-R's. My (quite modern) Sony M9900 plays all the CD-R's I've ever fed it, but it won't touch CD-RW's. The Sony CX680 of the same age (or something like that) hated both.
Unless it actually states in the manual that the player supports CD-R's I think you might be buggered.
BrianTheYank said:
BrianTheYank said:
I would like to suggest and ipod and itrip.
cds......ill never go back.
Helpful.
Your cars not running properly? Buy another.
Thanks for your contribution.
no, im just saying that with that combo you can stick all the thousands of songs you may have on it and have easy access and they never have any problems while playing like he seems to be having with the burnt cd's.
Itrips are illegal here. Ordinarily that wouldn't be a problem
but there is a guy in our building paid by the government to find and prosecute people with pirate transmitters. He drives a disco with some quite fancy kit installed and we have some fun antennas on the top of the building. GregE240 said:
Off, I think its car stereo related.
Do they play okay on home equipment?
I concur. My audio CDRs work perfectly in all manner of home equipment but play like shite in the car. In fact, they tend to get progressively worse in-car until they're all but unplayable. Weird, huh?
AFAIK finalizing burns the table of contents creating a non multisession disk in that it can be read on a non multisession player. The original CD format was not multisession therefore true CD players require this. Most players these days are built with multisession.
Basically if its able to get a track list and play something then finalizing shouldn't make a difference.
Basically if its able to get a track list and play something then finalizing shouldn't make a difference.
GregE240 said:
Off, I think its car stereo related.
Do they play okay on home equipment?
Bugger I hoped that you wouldnt say that!!!
The painful thing is that the Honda has a unique fit stereo (and yes, the MP3 compatible high-power one was optional and I couldnt reach it on the lease cost!!!). So might be stuck with "real" ones instead.
The funny thing is that I dont actually have any home equipment! Sounds stupid I know, but recently bought one of them all-singing-and-dancing Vaio's which has a sub-woofer built in, along with the Linksys wireless media player for the surround sound processor (which is the closest thing I have to a HiFi. All my music is MP3's at home. Mind you seeing that recent post about HiFi's got me thinking..... though the wife might have something to say about that one...
I will give it a spin on my DVD player (which is a recorder too so it better bloody work!) through the surround sound (closest thing to conventional HiFi) and let you know.
Who said MP3's were the future then? Pah....bhah humbug.....
There is a school of thought out there that labelling your disks will cause them to bend (as the adhesive contracts) and may contribute to digital jumps on a burned CD...
...personally I have only ever noticed this while using the glossy labels. I had a nice burned CD with a glossy label and it jumped, stuttered and sputtered all over the place. Removal of label, and it played like a champ.
Just FYI
ErnestM
...personally I have only ever noticed this while using the glossy labels. I had a nice burned CD with a glossy label and it jumped, stuttered and sputtered all over the place. Removal of label, and it played like a champ.
Just FYI
ErnestM
ErnestM said:
There is a school of thought out there that labelling your disks will cause them to bend (as the adhesive contracts) and may contribute to digital jumps on a burned CD...
...personally I have only ever noticed this while using the glossy labels. I had a nice burned CD with a glossy label and it jumped, stuttered and sputtered all over the place. Removal of label, and it played like a champ.
Just FYI
ErnestM
I think thats more than likely down to small vibrations caused by unbalancing the disk by sticking the label on. Unless you were using a full face label
CDR has a much lower contrast ratio between pits and non pits than a pressed CD and are therefore more sensitive generally.
>> Edited by malman on Thursday 17th February 15:43
malman said:
Itrips are illegal here. Ordinarily that wouldn't be a problem
Didnt know that actually. :
I dont see why they would make them illegal though.
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