981 service costs
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No, new spark plugs after 4 years is he key point.
My OPC is £85 for the AC service. And the same for brake fluid.
I don,t really find indies any cheaper esp on parts.
£1k is not too bad when you think nothing has been done for 2 years, try a Ferrari service or warranty lol.
Porsche's are very cheap to run sports cars IMO £500 a year what's the problem?
My tax on the GT4 is that ! Makes a service seem great value lol
My OPC is £85 for the AC service. And the same for brake fluid.
I don,t really find indies any cheaper esp on parts.
£1k is not too bad when you think nothing has been done for 2 years, try a Ferrari service or warranty lol.
Porsche's are very cheap to run sports cars IMO £500 a year what's the problem?
My tax on the GT4 is that ! Makes a service seem great value lol
Edited by Porsche911R on Thursday 3rd November 23:28
I've just been through the "year 4" service at OPC,
- My OPC was trying to charge about £50 more per item on your list than the Porsche UK website prices you've quoted. I told them to "do one". The service manager then phoned back and said they would do it for the UK website prices.
- I've got more miles than you but not mega. I told them to "do one" regarding the spark plug change and other add-on items. Reckon I can easily go to year 6 with modern plugs.
- I had the basic service and brake fluid change done. Final cost was £760
- The available saving was only around £200. Not a big difference on a £50k car.
- They said they generally don't see cars less than 5 years old.
Thanks for the comments
I see Halfords will recharge your air on for £50 so £200 sounds nonsense but the power of the brand .
So I take it I could defer the spark plugs to a later service and still get the stamp but would need the air con check to get it ?
On another thread I see someone got their air con inspection reduced to a check only and prices reduced to £50 at opc.
I agree Porsche are not that bad especially as it is every two years these days but I also know there will be the inevitable phone call on the day saying they need lto polish my differential for £150 !!
I see Halfords will recharge your air on for £50 so £200 sounds nonsense but the power of the brand .
So I take it I could defer the spark plugs to a later service and still get the stamp but would need the air con check to get it ?
On another thread I see someone got their air con inspection reduced to a check only and prices reduced to £50 at opc.
I agree Porsche are not that bad especially as it is every two years these days but I also know there will be the inevitable phone call on the day saying they need lto polish my differential for £150 !!
Thanks for the comments
I see Halfords will recharge your air on for £50 so £200 sounds nonsense but the power of the brand .
So I take it I could defer the spark plugs to a later service and still get the stamp but would need the air con check to get it ?
On another thread I see someone got their air con inspection reduced to a check only and prices reduced to £50 at opc.
I agree Porsche are not that bad especially as it is every two years these days but I also know there will be the inevitable phone call on the day saying they need lto polish my differential for £150 !!
I see Halfords will recharge your air on for £50 so £200 sounds nonsense but the power of the brand .
So I take it I could defer the spark plugs to a later service and still get the stamp but would need the air con check to get it ?
On another thread I see someone got their air con inspection reduced to a check only and prices reduced to £50 at opc.
I agree Porsche are not that bad especially as it is every two years these days but I also know there will be the inevitable phone call on the day saying they need lto polish my differential for £150 !!
hartley said:
So I take it I could defer the spark plugs to a later service and still get the stamp but would need the air con check to get it ?
Have a look in your service Book - you'll see everything is itemised out. It's not just a question of stamp/no stamp. (And you should always retain your detailed service invoices. Don't just rely on the service book alone. Informed buyers like to see a sheaf of paperwork.)Most OPC's will price match an Indy, at least mine does! Maybe that's because mine is in older model? (987).
I personally think the issue with leaving the plugs longer is the fact that they seize in the block - I've heard & read about this happening on Porsches where the plugs have been left in for longer than recommended.
Also, in my view, trying to save a couple of hundred quid on a car like this where it would be obvious that the recommended service intervals had not been followed would result in potential problems / lower resale value. To me, if someone couldn't be bothered to have the plugs changed, what other maintenance has been neglected?? Would put me off buying anyhow...
I personally think the issue with leaving the plugs longer is the fact that they seize in the block - I've heard & read about this happening on Porsches where the plugs have been left in for longer than recommended.
Also, in my view, trying to save a couple of hundred quid on a car like this where it would be obvious that the recommended service intervals had not been followed would result in potential problems / lower resale value. To me, if someone couldn't be bothered to have the plugs changed, what other maintenance has been neglected?? Would put me off buying anyhow...
Never fails to amaze me, some folk will happily spend £50k + on a car and then quibble over a couple of hundred £ to maintain it properly!!
If you buy an expensive car - or any car come to think of it - be prepared to maintain it properly as per manufacturers recommendations. Porsche maintenance regimes are far from extravagant anyway.
If you buy an expensive car - or any car come to think of it - be prepared to maintain it properly as per manufacturers recommendations. Porsche maintenance regimes are far from extravagant anyway.
Edited by dreamcar on Saturday 5th November 12:47
Ozzie Osmond said:
Trust me, I never have any difficulty selling my cars. 
It's no longer 1975. Synthetic oils are virtually indestructible and plugs don't need changing every ten minutes. If you're worried about the plugs getting stuck just loosen and re-tighten them.
I was thinking of changing the oil and filter after the first 3000 miles rather than wait 2 years. Do you reckon this is a complete waste of money?It's no longer 1975. Synthetic oils are virtually indestructible and plugs don't need changing every ten minutes. If you're worried about the plugs getting stuck just loosen and re-tighten them.
Personally I'm quite happy to have 2-year oil changes with my use of the car.
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As regards spark plugs, some useful input here for deciding whether to delay a spark plug change if mileage isn't big.
"Below are six signs for when to change your spark plugs:
1. Engine has a rough idle - Your engine idles when it is a stationary and in this position the engine normally produces around 1000rpm. The sound the engine gives off is constant and smooth but if your spark plugs aren’t performing as they should, your engine will produce a rough and jittery sound while producing larger vibrations through the car. Not having this checked can lead to costly damage being done.
2. Having trouble starting your car - Many people put their car not starting down to being out of fuel or having a flat battery. One possibility you may overlook is having bad or worn spark plugs.
3. Your engine misfires - When your engine misfires it causes the vehicle to halt for a fraction of a second and then continues it’s usual movement. This means the vehicle isn’t functioning as smoothly as it should because one or more cylinders aren’t firing properly.
4. Engine surging - When a vehicle sucks in more air than usual in the combustion process it can cause the vehicle to jerk and then slow down or continually start and stop, which means the vehicles engine is working inefficiently.
5. High fuel consumption - If your spark plugs have deteriorated you’ll notice that your vehicles fuel economy can decrease by up to 30% due to incomplete combustion. If you notice you’re having to fill up more often than usual it can be caused by deteriorating spark plugs.
6. Lack of acceleration - If your vehicle is accelerating poorly it is fairly easy to tell. It feels as if the vehicle doesn’t want to respond when you put your foot down. This ‘sluggishness’ can be fixed by having the vehicle serviced with a spark plug change."
"Below are six signs for when to change your spark plugs:
1. Engine has a rough idle - Your engine idles when it is a stationary and in this position the engine normally produces around 1000rpm. The sound the engine gives off is constant and smooth but if your spark plugs aren’t performing as they should, your engine will produce a rough and jittery sound while producing larger vibrations through the car. Not having this checked can lead to costly damage being done.
2. Having trouble starting your car - Many people put their car not starting down to being out of fuel or having a flat battery. One possibility you may overlook is having bad or worn spark plugs.
3. Your engine misfires - When your engine misfires it causes the vehicle to halt for a fraction of a second and then continues it’s usual movement. This means the vehicle isn’t functioning as smoothly as it should because one or more cylinders aren’t firing properly.
4. Engine surging - When a vehicle sucks in more air than usual in the combustion process it can cause the vehicle to jerk and then slow down or continually start and stop, which means the vehicles engine is working inefficiently.
5. High fuel consumption - If your spark plugs have deteriorated you’ll notice that your vehicles fuel economy can decrease by up to 30% due to incomplete combustion. If you notice you’re having to fill up more often than usual it can be caused by deteriorating spark plugs.
6. Lack of acceleration - If your vehicle is accelerating poorly it is fairly easy to tell. It feels as if the vehicle doesn’t want to respond when you put your foot down. This ‘sluggishness’ can be fixed by having the vehicle serviced with a spark plug change."
Sparkyhd said:
I was thinking of changing the oil and filter after the first 3000 miles rather than wait 2 years. Do you reckon this is a complete waste of money?
I'd go with Porsche's recommendations, modem synthetic oils such as Mobil 1 are far superior to old oils where more frequent changes were the norm.Edited by dreamcar on Saturday 5th November 21:40
I have every sympathy with changing fluids as often as every 12 months even if the manufacturer says every 2 years but spark plugs after 8k when the car is running fine ? Most manufacturers recommend after 50k ish and they will be erring on the safe side . It's not the money it's the principal - not being a mug that is ripped off doing unnecessary work..
hartley said:
I have every sympathy with changing fluids as often as every 12 months even if the manufacturer says every 2 years but spark plugs after 8k when the car is running fine ? Most manufacturers recommend after 50k ish and they will be erring on the safe side . It's not the money it's the principal - not being a mug that is ripped off doing unnecessary work..
The spark plugs are not just simple spark plugs these days, there are a lot of electronics in them that probably have a limited service life due to heat, vibration etc. Porsche don't insist on changing them at 4 years regardless of mileage to "rip people off". Simple fact - if you want to have an ongoing warranty you have to stick to the maintenance regimes. My own car probably won't have done much more than 20k miles at four years old - and I won't quibble over a few £ to change the plugs!One thing to me that is important is an annual oil change.
History suggests that two year oil changes may contribute towards some problems.
No one really knows the truth in all cases from previous engine nightmares but anything that canbe done to help the car for a small price should be done in my opinion.
Opieoils GB will send you mobil 1 enough for a full oil change and top up post free for £65.........
I would say you can leave the filter in place as you are putting new oil in, and there will be less mess in it than keeping the old for two years.
Personally I will fit a new filter as well.
As previuosly mentioned Mobil 1 is quite possibly the wrong oil for this country as it designed for use down to -25...
5w 40 appears to be the most used according to the porsche recommended list for oil that can be used.
I would be interested to hear what oils some of you are using, and why...
There are a lot more expensive oils out there which may be better.
Gadgit.
History suggests that two year oil changes may contribute towards some problems.
No one really knows the truth in all cases from previous engine nightmares but anything that canbe done to help the car for a small price should be done in my opinion.
Opieoils GB will send you mobil 1 enough for a full oil change and top up post free for £65.........
I would say you can leave the filter in place as you are putting new oil in, and there will be less mess in it than keeping the old for two years.
Personally I will fit a new filter as well.
As previuosly mentioned Mobil 1 is quite possibly the wrong oil for this country as it designed for use down to -25...
5w 40 appears to be the most used according to the porsche recommended list for oil that can be used.
I would be interested to hear what oils some of you are using, and why...
There are a lot more expensive oils out there which may be better.
Gadgit.
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