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Mr Tank

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5,797 posts

296 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Hi

I am trying to collect the parts I need so I can put my Tasmin 200 back as it left the factory. There are a few parts I am not certain what they are or should be, which is mainly the air cleaner and the air induction system for the automatic choke system.
To help me find the parts I need pictures of the areas of the air cleaner and exhaust manifold of a Tas 200 when it left the factory. Has anybody got any thing like that they can let me see I would be most greatful.

Andy

GV

2,366 posts

245 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Tas 200 was a 2ltr Ford Pinto engine. Surely the Ford setup for the choke and air cleaner would suffice?

mk1fan

10,827 posts

246 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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I believe TVR used the Alfa Spider set up as they were on special at the local factors. biggrin

Mr Tank

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5,797 posts

296 months

Wednesday 19th April 2017
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GV said:
Tas 200 was a 2ltr Ford Pinto engine. Surely the Ford setup for the choke and air cleaner would suffice?
Hi Andrew

I though that as well, but so far I haven't found an air cleaner which matches the TVR layout. That is why I am trying to find pics of the set up in a Tas 200 for when they left the factory, so I can confirm what I need to find.

Andy

SEvans

1,177 posts

288 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Andy, unfortunately I don't have any pictures from when I first bought the Tasmin back in 1989. Even then I'm not sure how 'standard' it was as it had already had 7 owners and was only 5 years old. I do remember it had a twin choke Weber carburetor and a chrome air cleaner with foam insert. I quickly replaced this with a K&N filter as I can remember thinking that the insulation from the bonnet was sitting right on the air intake. The K&N filter I fitted was much flatter and had the air intake from the sides. After a few years of ownership I had some engine work done and replaced the carburetor with a 38DGAS. I'm fairly sure that with the twin choke Weber it originally had an automatic choke and I fitted a manual choke, as it was known to cause some issues. I do have some pics of the 38DGAS setup but I don't think these would be much use to you.
Cheers Steve

Mr Tank

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5,797 posts

296 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Hi Steve

Thanks for your post,

I would love to see your pics of the Tas 200, as it may just show something I am uncertain off, in fact any pics of any Tas 200 will be useful so I can get the best idea of what these rare wedge had fitted etc.

Andy

KKson

3,466 posts

146 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Hi Andy there's one image on Google but not a clue how accurate and original it is.


mrzigazaga

18,740 posts

186 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Tasmin200

1,361 posts

208 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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I'm sure I've seen a chassis picture in the factory of a 200 in one of my books. Pretty sure it had a standard Cortina type round filter on it rather than the square ish Capri/RS2000 filter set up. I'll go and have a look for it.

Edited by Tasmin200 on Thursday 20th April 22:38

Tasmin200

1,361 posts

208 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Taken from TVR A passion to succeed, by Peter Filby.


Tasmin200

1,361 posts

208 months

Thursday 20th April 2017
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Looks like it's from Sierra rather than Cortina. That would explain the twin outlet exhaust manifold. Pretty sure Capri's and Cortina's had a single downpipe.

This is a Sierra engine bay.

Mr Tank

Original Poster:

5,797 posts

296 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Hi Gents

Thanks for the pics and info, they have all been useful to me as even from those pics I can see the differences I have found but in all very useful.

The main item I can see which will be hard to find but easy to make is the cover over the exhaust manifold.

Also the car in the previous post was up for sale on e-bay just three weeks ago and went for nearly £1k in a similar state as in the post, so there hope for the Tas 200.

I can now plan it's body off full chassis restoration now.

Andy

Edited by Mr Tank on Friday 21st April 13:05

eesbad

1,330 posts

223 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Mr Tank said:
The main item I can see which will be hard to find but easy to make is the cover over the exhaust manifold.
You mean like this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-1-6-2-0-Pinto-Corti...

Mr Tank

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5,797 posts

296 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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eesbad said:
Perfect, that matches the one in Peter Filby's book and I have obtained that style of air cleaner in the pic so things are looking good. The air cleaner is actual from a Transit van, it may have also been fitted to other Fords, but this would follow TVR history with Fords buying from there Commercial engine division rather than there car division.

Thanks to you all.

Andy



Edited by Mr Tank on Friday 21st April 12:48

batman400

1,486 posts

225 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Hi Andy,

I'm not sure about the engine being of transit origin, it was a horrible low compression thing that only made 76hp and had a single choke carb hanging off it, Surely TVR would have used the high compression Sierra / Granada / Cortina / Capri spec unit with ~100hp and twin choke carb ? I once hired a Luton fitted with one and it was absolutely useless with a hill and headwind snails where moving faster.

It does look like a Sierra type air-filter as the Cortina / Capri ones had a manual air inlet control rather than the automatic flap.

- I built some Ford based Kit Cars 20 odd years ago so got to know the old Pinto.

Mr Tank

Original Poster:

5,797 posts

296 months

Friday 21st April 2017
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Hi

I agree the engine is the car spec but TVR purchased it from the Ford Commercial engine division as that's how Ford sold engines.
The comparison with the wedges Ford Cologne engine came to TVR from the same source, and as some of use have found that the engine was not quite the same as the engine in the Capri etc, (Ask Oliver Winterbottom)
This is why I wanted as much information about how the engine was fitted in the car and with what fittings. The air cleaner it appears is part Transit (The top & air air inlet pipe) the bottom is a twin choke unit (The Transit is a single choke unit) The air inlet pipe from a normal car is smaller, so a mixture of Ford items, TVR properly spec it that way, so there was more air going into the engine.

Andy

batman400

1,486 posts

225 months

Monday 24th April 2017
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OK Andy,

Fair enough, I couldn't work out how the got a twin choke "transit" type air cleaner, make sense that the lower section was shared between different applications, out of interest what's the 3 digit engine code ??

SB