Road deaths up despite extra speed cameras

[r32]

News from West Yorkshire:

Road Deaths up Despite extra speed cameras

[cuneus]

and you can add Cumbria, Avon and Somerset and 1 other that I can't remember to that list

[V8 Archie]

[quote=Partnership Chairman, Steve Thornton]What happens is that injuries increase in line with increasing traffic, unless you do something about it... Anything that reduces speed also reduces conflict and contributes to making roads safer.[/quote]
What rubbish. Why do we allow such clueless plonkers into such positions in this country?

[BliarOut]

They have put eight scams up on the A47 through Peterborough.... A road that can normally tolerate roadworks without crisis.

Last night, I saw my first accident on that stretch of road and ironically it was right under the scamera

When are the cnuts going to wake up to the fact that they just don't work and are actually contributing to a gradual increase in accidents.

Unless you define working as raking in millions for Gordon to spunk on..... Actually, where does all the money go?

[MilnerR]

BliarOut said:

Actually, where does all the money go?

"£40,000 a piece Mr Darling, but see as you're buying in bulk you qualify for a 10% discount!"


27 days and counting.............

[james_j]

It's odd, but when this sort of news surfaces, comments from camera representatives are a bit thin on the ground.

[ashes]

odd that deaths are up but seriously injured down - the opposite of what you should be getting if any 'safety' measure was working.

I use the M1 most days, j38 to M621. 3 years ago - at least 3 trafpols daily going N, 2 going south at night. Now - lucky to see 1 a month.

Progress? I don't think so

[voyds9]

Just posted in the papers reply section.

"Inspite of 269 cameras an extra 14 lives lost this year, but all the partnership bleats on about is the drop of 192 serious injuries. If I had the choice of being serious injured (defined as spending at least one night in hospital) or being dead I know which I would choose.
It seems we now know the price of a life it is 14 serious injuries. Clearly demonstrated again cameras are not saving lives."

[SotonS2]

cuneus said:

and you can add Cumbria, Avon and Somerset and 1 other that I can't remember to that list

I believe Suffolk falls into that bracket IIRC

A colleague read an interesting article which dealt with the increase of KSIs at camera sites. It suggested that greater diffential speeds (people doing 30-70 in a 50 limit where it used to be 45-70) had an impact. It also made the point that road designers appointed speed limits using statistical methods ie. 15% of drivers speed, 15% of drivers drive too slow etc.

Now that control of speed limits has been passed to County Councils and many NSLs are becoming 40 limits, the article stated that lower driver concentration where the limit was unreasonably low resulted in an increase in KSIs.

I will get him to bring the article in and post it in detail.



>> Edited by SotonS2 on Friday 8th April 16:46

[supraman2954]

MilnerR said:

BliarOut said: Actually, where does all the money go? "£40,000 a piece Mr Darling, but see as you're buying in bulk you qualify for a 10% discount!" 27 days and counting.............

You think that is bad? Go find out how much a SPECs camera costs!