Using the hard shoulder to dodge the traffic
Discussion
No, I'm not advocating it! I'm just wondering whether there's any mileage in reporting someone who did. M60 clockwise this morning (8:05-ish), between J3 and J4, I (and thousands of others) queue patiently, each lane going slightly quicker than the one to its left. Out of the corner of my eye I notice a fast moving object which turns out to be an anonymous hatchback (poss. Toyota Corrolla) steaming along the hard shoulder. He clearly wasn't attempting to merge after a genuine stop - he was going 2x the speed of the left hand lane. A bit further along I pass it (he's now merged with the stationary lane for the M56), confirm the number plate, and also that it isn't anything special (doctor/motorway maintenance/etc.).
If I reported it, would it go anywhere? All I really want is to know that he'd get a telling off and hopefully not do it again.
If I reported it, would it go anywhere? All I really want is to know that he'd get a telling off and hopefully not do it again.
If this has aggrieved you as much as it appears to have done, then go along to your nearest Police Station, insist you want to make a complaint and then be prepared to have a full criminal justice statement taken from you.
If the offending vehicle is not a local community chav taxi with no registered owner since the last but 7 transfers, then you will not have to worry too much about the next step.
Should the car be registered to a normal person instead of the above type, then a NIP will be sent to the driver who will in all probablility contest your evidence when the summons is issued and served. That will mean that you have to go to the court area where the offence took place (which could be a long way from your home)and sit for hours in a waiting room full of those who pertain to the genus 'chav' before you are insulted and called a liar by a highly paid legal professional.
If you are prepared to do this, then by all means pop along to your local nick and fill out the required forms!
If it really concerns you that much, ask for a different form at the nick. This is called an application form. If you fill it in and are suitable for the post, after about 4 years and the fact you have filled out several more application forms, you can sit in the traffic on the motorway in the knowledge that
1. If he/she comes past again in the same manner/mode, you will be poised for immediate action
2. At a minutes notice, you can do exactly the same without fear of prosecution!
Other than that. Forget it
>> Edited by gone on Wednesday 13th April 09:39
If the offending vehicle is not a local community chav taxi with no registered owner since the last but 7 transfers, then you will not have to worry too much about the next step.
Should the car be registered to a normal person instead of the above type, then a NIP will be sent to the driver who will in all probablility contest your evidence when the summons is issued and served. That will mean that you have to go to the court area where the offence took place (which could be a long way from your home)and sit for hours in a waiting room full of those who pertain to the genus 'chav' before you are insulted and called a liar by a highly paid legal professional.
If you are prepared to do this, then by all means pop along to your local nick and fill out the required forms!
If it really concerns you that much, ask for a different form at the nick. This is called an application form. If you fill it in and are suitable for the post, after about 4 years and the fact you have filled out several more application forms, you can sit in the traffic on the motorway in the knowledge that
1. If he/she comes past again in the same manner/mode, you will be poised for immediate action
2. At a minutes notice, you can do exactly the same without fear of prosecution!
Other than that. Forget it
>> Edited by gone on Wednesday 13th April 09:39
gone said:
If it really concerns you that much, ask for a different form at the nick. This is called an application form.
Not that bothered, just miffed that one person can lop great chunks out of his commute time with apparent impunity (a dangerous un-measurable transgression).
gone said:
Other than that. Forget it
Was hoping for a fire-and-forget slap-on-the-wrist to discourage him, but if there's no way for that to happen, consider it forgotten.
gone said:
If this has aggrieved you as much as it appears to have done, then go along to your nearest Police Station, insist you want to make a complaint and then be prepared to have a full criminal justice statement taken from you.
If the offending vehicle is not a local community chav taxi with no registered owner since the last but 7 transfers, then you will not have to worry too much about the next step.
Should the car be registered to a normal person instead of the above type, then a NIP will be sent to the driver who will in all probablility contest your evidence when the summons is issued and served. That will mean that you have to go to the court area where the offence took place (which could be a long way from your home)and sit for hours in a waiting room full of those who pertain to the genus 'chav' before you are insulted and called a liar by a highly paid legal professional.
If you are prepared to do this, then by all means pop along to your local nick and fill out the required forms!
If it really concerns you that much, ask for a different form at the nick. This is called an application form. If you fill it in and are suitable for the post, after about 4 years and the fact you have filled out several more application forms, you can sit in the traffic on the motorway in the knowledge that
1. If he/she comes past again in the same manner/mode, you will be poised for immediate action
2. At a minutes notice, you can do exactly the same without fear of prosecution!
Other than that. Forget it
>> Edited by gone on Wednesday 13th April 09:39
Frightening... Highlights the need for more traffic patrol cars.
chrisjl said:
Not that bothered, just miffed that one person can lop great chunks out of his commute time with apparent impunity (a dangerous un-measurable transgression).
Same attitude as I sometimes experience with regard to my filtering through traffic on the bike - though I am of course not doing anything dangerous or breaking the law!
Mad Dave said:
Not that bothered, just miffed that one person can lop great chunks out of his commute time with apparent impunity (a dangerous un-measurable transgression).
Same attitude as I sometimes experience with regard to my filtering through traffic on the bike - though I am of course not doing anything dangerous or breaking the law!
Nor was my colleague on the A404 between Marlow and High Wycombe last month.
Unfortunately he is no longer with us as a result of his legal filtering manoeuvre!
trev r said:
Oh if only we were like Switzerland , where car registration plates are assigned to the person, not the car & you can by a book that gives all contact details for each registration number, so then you can give that naughty person who annoyed you on the road a bell and tell them off
Is this true.
I don't know if we should want that to happen here. Would you want your personal details available to everyone just from you car number plate. Think of the targetted junk mail this could generate, not to mention a possible invasion of privacy or even stalking of your wife or daughter by some perv who liked the look of her as she drove past.
Think again!
rude-boy said:
a highly paid legal professional.
PMSL, have you seen the Hourly rate for Duty Solicitors? Most, other than equity partners, earn less than a custody sergeant!
Otherwise accurate to a T.
Quite so!
Does a highly paid legal professional have to put up with the smell of unwashed feet and festering trainers for up to 10 hours without respite?
I think a custody Sgt has a right to be paid more than a duty solicitor for that reason alone!
Cooperman said:
Oh if only we were like Switzerland , where car registration plates are assigned to the person, not the car & you can by a book that gives all contact details for each registration number, so then you can give that naughty person who annoyed you on the road a bell and tell them off
Is this true.
I don't know if we should want that to happen here. Would you want your personal details available to everyone just from you car number plate. Think of the targetted junk mail this could generate, not to mention a possible invasion of privacy or even stalking of your wife or daughter by some perv who liked the look of her as she drove past.
Think again!
Ditto! Vixpy would have a field day
gone said:
chrisjl said:
Not that bothered, just miffed that one person can lop great chunks out of his commute time with apparent impunity (a dangerous un-measurable transgression).
Same attitude as I sometimes experience with regard to my filtering through traffic on the bike - though I am of course not doing anything dangerous or breaking the law!
Nor was my colleague on the A404 between Marlow and High Wycombe last month.
Unfortunately he is no longer with us as a result of his legal filtering manoeuvre!
Very sorry to hear that Gone
If you don't mind me asking, what went wrong?
Mad Dave said:
Same attitude as I sometimes experience with regard to my filtering through traffic on the bike - though I am of course not doing anything dangerous or breaking the law!
You truly do live up to your name with an attitude like this.
I have 3 bikes by the way, 125, 600, 1200, so not anti-biker in any way other than I would like to see reckless ones have both arms removed to prevent giving responsible ones a bad name.
Mad Dave said:
Very sorry to hear that Gone
If you don't mind me asking, what went wrong?
On his way to work in the morning rush hour. Filtering up the centre of the bypass just before the Thames river bridge where he was side swiped by a Landrover changing lanes. He went into the nearside trees and didn't survive.
chrisjl said:
If I reported it, would it go anywhere? All I really want is to know that he'd get a telling off and hopefully not do it again.
Jesus was walking through Jerusalem one day when he happened across a stoning which was about to commence.
Distressed he stood up to the baying crowd and announced, "may the one who is most righteous cast the first stone". Almost immediately a bloody great rock came flying towards him from back of the crowd. To which Jesus called out "sometimes you really get on my tits mum!"
gone said:
Nor was my colleague on the A404 between Marlow and High Wycombe last month.
Unfortunately he is no longer with us as a result of his legal filtering manoeuvre!
Exact;y why I only change lanes in heavy traffic when necssary (like I want to get off the motorway). Although I like to think my observation skills are good, lane jumping rarely gets you there faster, and has the risk that you might hit someone you haven;t seen before doing the move. It's also why on a motorway I prefer the outside or inside lane in very heavy traffic, only have to worry about idiots from one lane cutting you up, rather than two!
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