Exhaust sealing rings

[chris59]

Hi guys,

Now that's time to refit the exhaust on my 350I Wedge, I realised that my 2 exhaust seal rings (down pipes to main silencer) are dead.

I've found a pair from Racetech website, but at GBP 28.74 (include delivery and VAT), it's, imho, "a tad" expensive, especially for carriage, as it epresents 6/10 of this total price !

Do you know if these exhaust seals (ref 035S100, apparently) can be found elsewhere, ie from another car ?

Cheers !

[BIG DUNC]

Take one of the old ones to your local exhaust place or garage and see if they can order a couple for you. They are on plenty of other cars.

[chris59]

I tried this prior to post on this forum, but the friend who run a local garage can't help : he is not a new comer in this business, far from this, so I suspect this model of seal is not that easy to find in France, where I live.

[BIG DUNC]

I know it is pretty similar to the seal on my range rover, even though the manifolds are completely different.

If they are not available locally you may have to bite the bullet and go for the expensive option.

[chris59]

I've already bought a pair for Range Rover : albeit the bore of 50mm is the same, the shape of the "ring" is totally different.

Their thickness is huge, more than 20mm larger than originals rings, this mean that the "Y" pipes welded to the main exhaust box don't fit properly on downpipes, and move the whole exhaust system back.

If I don't find a proper set of Rings, I may cut and weld back the 2 half of each RR rings, but I prefer to find the right thing !

[adam quantrill]

I use these bigger olives too but find there's enough "give" in the exhaust to accommodate them. Especially if you do up the bolts very tight after a while they squish a bit flatter.

You can get the same diameter ones for Jaguar (XJS etc) but make sure you get the solid cast ones. The ones that are pressed metal and fibre fit but only last a few thousand miles.

As posted above any exhaust place will have a selection and only a few quid each.

[chris59]

I'll have a look on my 3.6 XJS exhaust, didn't realised that it could be the same ring.

[adam quantrill]

Aha!

[SLB]

I've had this issue a few times now and wasted a few trips to the local exhaust centres. The last time was say 5 years ago when I fitted some new ACT manifolds so I kept a note of one I believe fitted ok. eBay item 230683030206 £2.99 with free carriage. It's still in my watch list so I believe this is the one and my exhaust has been great eversince. Steve.

[adam quantrill]

Looks useful and the ebay ad lists a long list of equivalent vehicles, so if you were in a hurry you could still get one locally.

[chris59]

Many thanks SLB, your reply made my day !

Edit : I just called one of my parts dealers, an the cars' list seems to be partially wrong, as this ring isn't fitted on the first cars listed....

[chris59]

Here is the list, I'll check later on which model it is fitted :

VOLVO:
740, 2.0, Saloon, Estate, 87-08/88, 1986 cc, 101 HP, 74 KW, M° B19E,1986 cc, 103 HP, 76 KW
740, 2.0, 2.0i, Saloon, Estate, 09/88-10/90, 1986 cc, 103 HP, 76 KW, M° B200K, 1986 cc, 118 HP, 87 KW
740, 2.3 GL, GLE, GLT, Saloon, Estate, 10/84-08/87, 2316 cc, 114 HP, 84 KW, M° B230K, 2316 cc, 131 HP, 96 KW
740, 2.3 GLE, Saloon, Estate, 08/87-09/90, 2316 cc, 116 HP, 85 KW, M° B230K, 2316 cc, 131 HP, 96 KW
740, 2.4 Diesel, Saloon, Estate, 83-86, 2383 cc, 82 HP, 60 KW
760, 2.8, Saloon, Estate, 83-87, 2849 cc, 156 HP, 115 KW
940, 2.4 Diesel, Saloon, Estate, 92-93, 2389 cc, 79 HP, 58 KW
 
FIAT:
FIAT - TEMPRA (159) - 1.9 TD (159.CU, 159.AU, 159.AI, 159.BI) (1990 - 1996) 66 kw | 90 HP | 1929 cc
FIAT - TIPO (160) - 1.9 TD (160.EL, 160.GL, 160.AQ, 160.EI, 160.AR) (1990 - 1995) 66 kw | 90 HP | 1929 cc
 
VOLKSWAGEN:
VW - GOLF IV (1J1) - 1.4 16V (1997 - 2005) 55 kw | 75 HP | 1390 cc
VW - GOLF IV Variant (1J5) - 1.4 16V (1999 - 2006) 55 kw | 75 HP | 1390 cc
VW - PASSAT (32B) - 1.6 (1986 - 1988) 53 kw | 72 HP | 1595 cc
VW - LT 28-35 I Bus (281-363) - 2.4 (1982 - 1992) 66 kw | 90 HP | 2383 cc
VW - LT 28-35 I Bus (281-363) - 2.4 D (1979 - 1992) 55 kw | 75 HP | 2383 cc
VW - LT 28-35 I Box (281-363) - 2.4 (1982 - 1992) 66 kw | 90 HP | 2383 cc
VW - LT 28-35 I Box (281-363) - 2.4 D (1979 - 1992) 55 kw | 75 HP | 2383 cc
VW - LT 28-35 I Flatbed / Chassis (281-363) - 2.4 (1982 - 1992) 66 kw | 90 HP | 2383 cc
VW - LT 28-35 I Flatbed / Chassis (281-363) - 2.4 D (1978 - 1991) 55 kw | 75 HP | 2383 cc
VW - LT 40-55 I Box (291-512) - 2.4 (1982 - 1992) 66 kw | 90 HP | 2383 cc
VW - LT 40-55 I Box (291-512) - 2.4 D (1979 - 1992) 55 kw | 75 HP | 2383 cc

They are not the same on my Jaguar.....

[SLB]

I did get given some Jaguar ones from an exhaust place once but they weren't right. They looked a bit like a barrel but were too long and restrictive. The ones from ebay i chose purely because of the dimensions and they fitted neatly with some exhaust paste.

[chris59]

Well, it seems that I'm less Lucky than you, mate : the ones I ordered yesterday, using the references given from EBay advert (and reproduce on my previous reply) are to big !

I need 50mm inner diameter rings, the ones I received are 58mm, holy s*** !

I'm fed of wasting time, I'll now try to order them from the same seller as you, via EBay.

May be the third attempt will be the right one ?

[SLB]

50mm rings a bell. Sounds like you're having similar issues to me. Hope you get it sorted. Steve

[chris59]

Absolutly : the rings from the list above won't fit, as Jaguar ones.

It seems that these 2" (about 50mm) rings are also fitted to some Ford Capris.

Whatever, I ended by ordering a set at a silly price from a TVR specialist, as I can't wait anymore : my Wedge need to move from my workshop, as one of my others classics need some tlc too !

[chris59]

adam quantrill said:

Especially if you do up the bolts very tight after a while they squish a bit flatter.

Are you kidding ? You CAN'T be serious.

[adam quantrill]

You need to "give it large" too, so they glow red hot. You should see the state of mine - a bit oval in places. They still do the job though.

[mk1fan]

Bought mine off ebay. Turned up the next day. Solid ones from the VAG range.

Did spend a bit of time trying to find them elsewhere though as KwikFit and ATS had never seen anything like them before!

[chris59]

Funny to see that some simple parts like these, are rather hard to find.

Is there any established cross references list for Wedges ?

We already now that the seals listed above are not corresponding to our cars, even if some will try to fit them using brute force.