Homeowner arrested for stabbing burglar

[don'tbesilly]

Bigends said:

Take them down and they'll suffer the consequences unfortunately.

So were the Ivanko's to call the local Police station for some guidance that would be the advice they were offered?

[Bigends]

don'tbesilly said:

So were the Ivanko's to call the local Police station for some guidance that would be the advice they were offered?

In so many words - then probably unofficially - yes

[Greendubber]

Bigends said:

don'tbesilly said:

So were the Ivanko's to call the local Police station for some guidance that would be the advice they were offered?

In so many words - then probably unofficially - yes

The deceased family would have been allocated a family liaison officer, the FLO would speak with the family and tell them they need to come down first and most likely give them a few days. After that they'd be removed.

We had it here, a garden down our road was turning into a shrine for a dead drink driver. The home owner put up with it for a week and then binned the lot. The dead guy wasn't a traveller though.


Same for the armed robber that died after robbing to local shop and buried his car into a very big oak tree, he was a traveller type and all you see now is a can of beer placed at the base of the tree every now and then. The balloons, pictures and flowers lasted about a week.

These will be given a bit longer maybe, due to the fact he was killed rather than taking himself out.

Edited by Greendubber on Monday 9th April 20:41

[Bigends]

Greendubber said:

The deceased family would have been allocated a family liaison officer, the FLO would speak with the family and tell them they need to come down first and most likely give them a few days. After that they'd be removed.

We had it here, a garden down our road was turning into a shrine for a dead drink driver. The home owner put up with it for a week and then binned the lot. The dead guy wasn't a traveller though.


Same for the armed robber that died after robbing to local shop and buried his car into a very big oak tree, he was a traveller type and all you see now is a can of beer placed at the base of the tree every now and then. The balloons, pictures and flowers lasted about a week.

Theres a traveller crash scene just up the road from here - still has a few flowers and teddies - thats about it.
A few flowers round a blameless oak tree is a bit different to what these residents are having to put up with. Hopefully there will be some sort of Police liaison between them and the mourners to put a limit as to how long they can keep the shrine going on this scale

[saaby93]

I thought that in this country years ago we decided that rather than create memorials where people die, we create memorials where they are buried. otherwise every house where someone died could have past residents memorial forever

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

I thought that in this country years ago we decided that rather than create memorials where people die, we create memorials where they are buried. otherwise every house where someone died could have past residents memorial forever

Travellers can't be tied to one place.
They are different and their needs are more imnportant/ take priority of normal joeys

[saaby93]

Has there been a funeral yet?

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

Has there been a funeral yet?

No they haven't managed to kill off the old boy yet

[hyphen]

So begs the question, would the homeowner undertake the same action again?

If he hadn't resisted, or barricaded in bedroom. Possibly he could have got robbed but, trauma aside, nothing else, and now he has his house boarded up and will probably sell it at a massive loss along with the cost of currently living elsewhere (do police pay?), And having to start a whole new life leaving behind everything.

I wonder why the police didn't give them 24 hour protection at home, would be a lot of public support regardless of cost, perhaps was their choice to get away from it.

[Bigends]

hyphen said:

So begs the question, would the homeowner undertake the same action again?

If he hadn't resisted, or barricaded in bedroom. Possibly he could have got robbed but, trauma aside, nothing else, and now he has his house boarded up and will probably sell it at a massive loss along with the cost of currently living elsewhere (do police pay?), And having to start a whole new life leaving behind everything.

If he hadnt resisted - its possible he'd be dead now - so he'd probably do the same again

[ChemicalChaos]

Locals take matters to not their own hands and tear down the shrine. Good.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5595693/Ne...

[Cobnapint]

Brilliant stuff. This takes the responsibility of taking it down away from the old guy and shows solidarity from the neighbours, reducing the risk of reprisals.

[jjohnson23]

Absolute filth putting up their 'shrine' to another piece of filth.Glad the locals have ripped it all down.
The poor guy who lives there has been hung out to dry by the system again,all he will be seen as is the man who upset the apple cart by the police,instead of just being a statistic in their eyes.
Where's the fker that left his 'mate' to die in the street then?Dozy prick thought torching his van would save him.
It really is time that they were sorted out but no one in 'authority' will ever have the bks to do what your average Englishman wants done,and then is up in arm's when people take the law into their own hands.
They are a plague.

Edited by Triumph Bullet on Tuesday 10th April 08:12

[hyphen]

ChemicalChaos said:

Locals take matters to not their own hands and tear down the shrine. Good.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5595693/Ne...

[TooMany2cvs]

pequod said:

Given that they are known criminals, and have now threatened revenge on the old chap, can we expect the law to hound them relentlessly??
I guess we know the answer!!!

What have they actually done, except be a bit mouthy?

As and when they do something, I'm sure they'll get a ton of bricks upon them.

[troika]

Where’s the other bargain hunt? On the run the say. More likely being protected on one of the sites the police won’t touch. Send the army in. Arrest the lot of them. HMRC to seize all assets where traceability of legitimate post tax funds cannot be proven i.e. all of them. Time to make them play by our rules.

[TooMany2cvs]

troika said:

HMRC to seize all assets where traceability of legitimate post tax funds cannot be proven i.e. all of them. Time to make them play by our rules.

And you could provide that for everything in your house and life, could you?

[Robertj21a]

TooMany2cvs said:

pequod said:

Given that they are known criminals, and have now threatened revenge on the old chap, can we expect the law to hound them relentlessly??
I guess we know the answer!!!

What have they actually done, except be a bit mouthy?

As and when they do something, I'm sure they'll get a ton of bricks upon them.

So, inevitably, can only be after the event then ? - and on past experience, the police will be reluctant to take action for fear of upsetting them or breaching their human rights..........

[TooMany2cvs]

Robertj21a said:

So, inevitably, can only be after the event then ?

It's strange how people seem to think "thought-crime" is already illegal, and that's a terrible thing - right up until it's somebody they don't like, then it's somehow required.

Robertj21a said:

- and on past experience, the police will be reluctant to take action for fear of upsetting them or breaching their human rights..........

Do go on with that... Which bit?
https://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Convention_ENG....
Apart, of course, from those minor inconveniences of articles 5, 6 and 7. How terrible that they should apply to everybody.

[Thankyou4calling]

But the OAP won't be killed by the family of the dead scrote.

He will be tormented for a while and that's harrowing enough but if someone is going to pop someone off then threatening it is rarely a pre cursor.

The threat is made to scare and intimidate, it's horrible, but it isn't carried through.

As for selling the house at a loss. That won't happen either. In 2 weeks it'll have blown over and normal service will be resumed.