Parking ticket advice

[mandat]

I got a parking ticket today, which was my own fault really and cannot see a way in which I can dispute it.

However, in order to make the council work for the fine money as hard as I have worked to earn it, I am considering using the Bill of Rights approach.

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Has anyone used this approach before and what was the result?


>>> Edited by mandat on Tuesday 26th April 11:59

[SotonS2]

mandat said:

I got a perking ticket today, which was my own fault really and cannot see a way in which I can dispute it. However, in order to make the council work for the fine money as hard as I have worked to earn it, I am considering using the Bill of Rights approach. [url]www.bwmaonline.com/Legal%20-%20New%20doubts%20-%20Thoburn%20conviction.htm[/url] Has anyone used this approach before and what was the result?

Check out www.pepipoo.com - I think its covered there.

[kitcar007kev]

Do it make the clowns work for your money!!!

i had a ticket recinded and got a very patronising letter back saying i might not be as lucky next time!!

Yer Right

[kevinday]

IMHO the Bill of Rights approach will not work. They are offering you the chance to pay a small penalty, or, take it to court and pay a fine. The small penalty is not a 'fine' as such (in the legal sense).

[parrot of doom]

It could be said that they're attempting to extort you with the offer not to prosecute if you pay them money.

[mandat]

kevinday said:

IMHO the Bill of Rights approach will not work. They are offering you the chance to pay a small penalty, or, take it to court and pay a fine. The small penalty is not a 'fine' as such (in the legal sense).

My understanding is that they have to take you to court in order for the court to award in their favour.

The gamble is that they give up without taking it to court. I am pretty much resigned to the fact that I will pay the fine if forced to, but I want them to have to work for this money.

P.S. If it does go all the way, can the court impose a larger fine that that already requested by the council?

[BliarOut]

kevinday said:

IMHO the Bill of Rights approach will not work. They are offering you the chance to pay a small penalty, or, take it to court and pay a fine. The small penalty is not a 'fine' as such (in the legal sense).

Interesting this, when is a fine not a fine? Does anyone actually know if there's a legal difference, because a fine in the dictionary pretty much covers the description of what they are doing!

[quote=the dictionary]
fine
n.

1. A sum of money required to be paid as a penalty for an offense.
2. Law.
1. A forfeiture or penalty to be paid to the offended party in a civil action.
2. An amicable settlement of a suit over land ownership.
3. Obsolete. An end; a termination.


tr.v. fined, fin·ing, fines

To require the payment of a fine from; impose a fine on.

[quote]

Sums up a fine or a penalty charge pretty well to me.

[UKbob]

I was nipped in town today, rightly as my ticket had expired. Pulled it off, left the car and went back into town to return later to find a nice note under the wipers from a mate who'd spotted my car, just saying hi. Life isnt so bad, £30 wont kill me, so Im paying. Not directed at anyone in particular, but are you a go with the flow kind of person or generally... not?

Just my 2 penneth. I reserve the right to change my mind, start frothing at the mouth in anger, and plot online the castration of wardens should I feel so inclined on another occasion. No purchase necessary. Limited offer while said thoughts last.