Road Signs - Odd question
Discussion
Does anyone know the regulations / rules whatever governing the placement of traffic signs (ie road works ahead etc.) on the carriageway?
Short facts: A youth placed a "class II" (I believe) sign in the road which may have caused a passing car to crash.
My questions is could such a sign have been lawfully placed in the road (by the competant authority)?
Any help gratefully recieved.
Thanks
Short facts: A youth placed a "class II" (I believe) sign in the road which may have caused a passing car to crash.
My questions is could such a sign have been lawfully placed in the road (by the competant authority)?
Any help gratefully recieved.
Thanks
You could wade through www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2002/20023113.htm#sch19pII2 in the hope of an answer - Streaky
Even if the sign could have been placed there, they can always claim that it was put somewhere safe and then moved later.
A few years back I had a road sign blow over into the car at a junction where roadworks were happening. Althought the sign had been weighed down, etc, the contractors swore blind that someone must have just come along and moved the sign when they were not looking, and therefore they were not liable for any damage. Ended up out of pocket on this one.
A few years back I had a road sign blow over into the car at a junction where roadworks were happening. Althought the sign had been weighed down, etc, the contractors swore blind that someone must have just come along and moved the sign when they were not looking, and therefore they were not liable for any damage. Ended up out of pocket on this one.
Not to mention a serious collision where someone ran into a sign which had been blown into the carriageway at some road works. Night time, no street lighting and sign was edge on to their line of vision. 
Worth thinking about by those who complain about speed limits in road works at night when no one is working.
FiF
Worth thinking about by those who complain about speed limits in road works at night when no one is working.
FiF
A "Traffic Sign" has to be authorised by Sec of State and in the main are those that are shown in the Traffic Signs and General Directions 2002 but he can authorise "non standard". Any other than that are not lawful signs. Regs do not authorise anyone other than an "authorised person" to erect, i.e. Highways.
Sections 64 - 72 Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 states that Highways Authorities may cause or permit traffic signs to be placed in conformity with directions. A person acting under the orders of Chief of Plod may place signs regulating traffic on public occasions or in the event of an emgency.
Under The Traffic Signs (Temporary Obstructions) Regulations 1997 - red triangle may be placed by anyone to warn of temporary obstruction.
There is no power for anyone to erect signs willy nilly.
In general signs certain signs i.e. Stop. Give Way ,have to have special authority to erect by Highways and they will be responsible where signs are required through a traffic regulation Order.
Again Highways have the authority to order the owner/occupier of land remove signs and in default remove them themselves and charge back.
As to placing of signs etc at roadworks, temporary obstructions etc and Orders then Highways (LA) work to a "Bible" on which signs are used and distances involved - Chapter 8 signing - IIRC.
DVD
Sections 64 - 72 Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 states that Highways Authorities may cause or permit traffic signs to be placed in conformity with directions. A person acting under the orders of Chief of Plod may place signs regulating traffic on public occasions or in the event of an emgency.
Under The Traffic Signs (Temporary Obstructions) Regulations 1997 - red triangle may be placed by anyone to warn of temporary obstruction.
There is no power for anyone to erect signs willy nilly.
In general signs certain signs i.e. Stop. Give Way ,have to have special authority to erect by Highways and they will be responsible where signs are required through a traffic regulation Order.
Again Highways have the authority to order the owner/occupier of land remove signs and in default remove them themselves and charge back.
As to placing of signs etc at roadworks, temporary obstructions etc and Orders then Highways (LA) work to a "Bible" on which signs are used and distances involved - Chapter 8 signing - IIRC.
DVD
gone said:
Section 22 RTA 1988 has a power of arrest for anyone placing anything in the carriageway that causes danger to road users or tampering with signs around road works.
Opens the gates for the inevitable comments on speed cameras
Bag blew off scam on M60 last November - think it was... und this was danger.
Who would I have sued if it caused me to crash into oncoming cat in roadwork?
Und last year Mad Doc had run-in mit chav over stupid flag which blew into his windscreen...Chav lost as you do not argue mit VERY Mad Moggie...
The youth is charged under section 22 - the question I am asking myself is; if a competant body could have placed this sign in this position lawfully, how can it be said that the youth was acting dangerously?
So I need to know, could a competant body have put this sign there.
The sign was 1m x 1.5m on an "A" type frame. placed .5m from kerb, under working street light, single carraige way, 50 mph speed limit (now reduced to 40) visible for at least 200m down the road.
So I need to know, could a competant body have put this sign there.
The sign was 1m x 1.5m on an "A" type frame. placed .5m from kerb, under working street light, single carraige way, 50 mph speed limit (now reduced to 40) visible for at least 200m down the road.
Theres an "A" shaped sign sat in the road very near to where I live.
Some minor roadwork has been done and there were cones around it along with the sign while the work was being carried out. Workmen left and sign remained on it's own.
It's in a 30mph limit but near to a crossroads which is a regular accident scene.
Some minor roadwork has been done and there were cones around it along with the sign while the work was being carried out. Workmen left and sign remained on it's own.
It's in a 30mph limit but near to a crossroads which is a regular accident scene.
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