MOT doubts on potential purchase
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Going to look at a (2005) Mini tomorrow at a small indy dealer and having checked the MOT history it passed it's first three OK but failed every one since with various advisories along the way the last MOT fail looked like this
Dealer appears to have MOT'd it last week and it passed with no advisories, such as clean bill of health first time of asking seems out of character and spidey senses have me thinking nice friendly MOT'er that he puts a few cars through. Bearing in mind the age of the car I can't think that he has much of budget to correct any issues pre MOT. So anyone else think lenient MOT'er or am I being overly cautious.
Dealer appears to have MOT'd it last week and it passed with no advisories, such as clean bill of health first time of asking seems out of character and spidey senses have me thinking nice friendly MOT'er that he puts a few cars through. Bearing in mind the age of the car I can't think that he has much of budget to correct any issues pre MOT. So anyone else think lenient MOT'er or am I being overly cautious.
Olivergt said:
It's easy enough to check if the 3rd brake light has been fixed.
And if you are really worried about the handbrake, get it tested by an MOT tester that you trust.
Alternatively keep looking, there are plenty more out there.
Yeah was thinking of getting it MOT'd (should I buy it) and if it fails badly then I should have some recourse against dealer. As regards plenty more out there, there aren't that many unfortunately, this is a Works upgrade with a very high spec and some rare options. And if you are really worried about the handbrake, get it tested by an MOT tester that you trust.
Alternatively keep looking, there are plenty more out there.
The slightly corroded brake pipes is no issue. Being at the rear, they are perhaps more easily replaced than fronts (in engine compartment), it depends on routing. At 88k miles that is not unusual. All of those items are very easily fixed, and probably have been.
Edited by Pica-Pica on Saturday 11th August 23:59
Ah yes just saw it's a works... Damn beer goggles : spin :
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=10...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=10...
Edited by James jamie on Sunday 12th August 10:23
Thesprucegoose said:
Why you buying from a dealer, 13 year old I would stick to private.
I have only seen 2 with this type of spec and both have been from dealers. I did see one privately recently but a dealer beat me to it, he bought it and immediately relisted it for £1400 (about 40%) more than he paid. Easy money.Cheers for the thoughts from everyone, will still have a look at it later today as it's not too far from me.
Should be easy enough to see if it’s had exhaust work or the brake pipes replaced. Personally I’d satisfy myself as to it’s condition and either buy it at a suitable price or walk away.
There will always be another car. Any car of that age and mileage you have to expect some worn/corroded items.
MoT advisories were very much a matter of opinion - that’s why they’ve been junked. There won’t be advisories for brake pipe corrosion on a new MoT becase it’s not possible to list that any more - they’re checked and they’re either acceptable or they fail.
Personally if I were worried about that and not confident in my ability to check the car I’d have the checks done before purchasing, not afterwards, saves a lot of hassle all round.
There will always be another car. Any car of that age and mileage you have to expect some worn/corroded items.
MoT advisories were very much a matter of opinion - that’s why they’ve been junked. There won’t be advisories for brake pipe corrosion on a new MoT becase it’s not possible to list that any more - they’re checked and they’re either acceptable or they fail.
Personally if I were worried about that and not confident in my ability to check the car I’d have the checks done before purchasing, not afterwards, saves a lot of hassle all round.
Mr-B said:
I did see one privately recently but a dealer beat me to it, he bought it and immediately relisted it for £1400 (about 40%) more than he paid. Easy money.
Maybe, but for that he’s taking a risk - he could be stuffed if anything goes wrong with it. If he’s a ‘proper’ dealer, £300 goes in VAT.rallycross said:
Sheepshanks said:
Maybe, but for that he’s taking a risk - he could be stuffed if anything goes wrong with it. If he’s a ‘proper’ dealer, £300 goes in VAT.
The dealer only pays vat on the gross profit per unit not the selling price.Mr-B said:
Dealer appears to have MOT'd it last week and it passed with no advisories, such as clean bill of health first time of asking seems out of character and spidey senses have me thinking nice friendly MOT'er that he puts a few cars through. Bearing in mind the age of the car I can't think that he has much of budget to correct any issues pre MOT. So anyone else think lenient MOT'er or am I being overly cautious.
It would have helped everyone understand what you are concerned about if you'd posted a screenshot of last week's MoT test which showed the Advisories disappearing. At the moment everyone is discussing the test from a year ago.There is a new MOT format since 20 May 2018.
Categories are now
Dangerous = fail
Major = fail
Minor = pass
Advisory = pass
Pass = you guessed, pass
See
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mot-changes-20-...
Categories are now
Dangerous = fail
Major = fail
Minor = pass
Advisory = pass
Pass = you guessed, pass
See
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/mot-changes-20-...
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