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80kwh/400hp
0-62 in 5.1
7/110kw ccs combo charging
range 450km nedc or 259miles wltp
~2500kg
500L boot
voice works well
Basic stats
80kwh/400hp
0-62 in 5.1
7/110kw ccs combo charging
range 450km nedc or 259miles wltp
~2500kg
500L boot
The front end is very toned down from the concepts, probably for the best but perhaps a little too much.
I’m sure it’s a very nice place to be but I can’t help feel it’s just another luxury electric SUV that is a bit of a “placeholder” while they get the more affordable stuff to market.
I’m sure it’s a very nice place to be but I can’t help feel it’s just another luxury electric SUV that is a bit of a “placeholder” while they get the more affordable stuff to market.
Looks like a credible enough attempt at a small luxury electric SUV, but nothing particularly makes it stand out. NerveAgent said:
The front end is very toned down from the concepts, probably for the best but perhaps a little too much.
I’m sure it’s a very nice place to be but I can’t help feel it’s just another luxury electric SUV that is a bit of a “placeholder” while they get the more affordable stuff to market.
Of course it is! That's exactly the point of the E-Tron and the EQC. I’m sure it’s a very nice place to be but I can’t help feel it’s just another luxury electric SUV that is a bit of a “placeholder” while they get the more affordable stuff to market.
Chris-S said:
Curious to see their battery warranty. It isn’t particularly generous on their hybrids, having no allowance whatsoever for loss of capacity.
I've not loo0ked that close but I think it has a 9xkwh battery with quite a large buffer like the etron, just Mercedes dont advertise the gross value just usable RobDickinson said:
Chris-S said:
Curious to see their battery warranty. It isn’t particularly generous on their hybrids, having no allowance whatsoever for loss of capacity.
I've not loo0ked that close but I think it has a 9xkwh battery with quite a large buffer like the etron, just Mercedes dont advertise the gross value just usable I haven't seen anything that states what the true pack size is though... I've seen reports of 384 cells, 218 Ah capacity with 350 V nominal voltage. Which is only 76 kWh I think (so perhaps its 80, with a small buffer?). On the official Merc Video they show 384 cells, 210 Ah and 408V maximum voltage. I think if you take 400V, then that is 85 kWh. So perhaps its not quite so conservative?
I love the look of these, watched a few reviews on YouTube last night and would be all over it - but £75k for a decent specced one? Blimey.
I guess they'll be quite rare for a while so perhaps it would be a decent ownership proposition for a couple of years, but it's still a huge extra lump of cash compared to a GLC43.
I guess they'll be quite rare for a while so perhaps it would be a decent ownership proposition for a couple of years, but it's still a huge extra lump of cash compared to a GLC43.
Jefferson Steelflex said:
I love the look of these, watched a few reviews on YouTube last night and would be all over it - but £75k for a decent specced one? Blimey.
Sadly the truth about EV pricing is since 2015 prices of EVs really haven't changed despite all the predictions of falling prices, EVs today still cost a premium.The Merc is actually 'cheap' when you consider what your getting. Even at current pricing demand overall is higher than supply, so prices aren't falling anytime soon.
Lets be honest if some predicted in 2015 there would be a 12 months waiting list for a Nissan Juke sized FWD £30k Hyundai as we approach 2020, you would have asked them to go see a therapist!!!
Edited by gangzoom on Tuesday 21st May 11:37
gangzoom said:
Sadly the truth about EV pricing is since 2015 prices of EVs really haven't changed despite all the predictions of falling prices, EVs today still cost a premium.
What 280 mile range EV could you buy in 2015 for £32k to match the current Kona and Niro? Realistically, as long as demand is out-stripping supply, EVs are going to carry something of a premium. I think now it's the size of that supply/demand gap which is driving the premium more than production costs. Don't get be wrong, EVs still cost more to make but I think that's not currently the limiting factor.
4 years ago I wouldn't have even considered an EV. Now I'm 90% sure our next car will be one.
Edited by kambites on Tuesday 21st May 11:46
kambites said:
What 280 mile range EV could you buy in 2015 for £32k to match the current Kona and Niro?
Realistically, as long as demand is out-stripping supply, EVs are going to carry something of a premium. I think now it's the size of that supply/demand gap which is driving the premium more than production costs. Don't get be wrong, EVs still cost more to make but I think that's not currently the limiting factor.
4 years ago I wouldn't have even considered an EV. Now I'm 90% sure our next car will be one.
And 4 years ago you would have aspired to own a Hyundai/Kia??Realistically, as long as demand is out-stripping supply, EVs are going to carry something of a premium. I think now it's the size of that supply/demand gap which is driving the premium more than production costs. Don't get be wrong, EVs still cost more to make but I think that's not currently the limiting factor.
4 years ago I wouldn't have even considered an EV. Now I'm 90% sure our next car will be one.
Edited by kambites on Tuesday 21st May 11:46
gangzoom said:
And 4 years ago you would have aspired to own a Hyundai/Kia??
I don't "aspire" to own one now, so no.Would I have bought one? Quite possibly if I'd been buying a family car then. I bought a nearly new Picanto for my parents at around that time (2014) because it suited their needs admirably and frankly it's a very good car. In the five years they've had it, it's gone wrong once - the cabin blower switch stopped working on one setting which was happily fixed under warranty at just over five years old.
Edited by kambites on Tuesday 21st May 12:02
kambites said:
What 280 mile range EV could you buy in 2015 for £32k to match the current Kona and Niro?
20015 you were likely stick with 24kwh leaf or 22kwh zoe (or tesla)?Prices are still falling but given the lack of battery supply isnt helping at all , demand > supply so no incentive for lower costs from LG etc
AFIK Hyundai are at best breaking even on the kona.
Having seen a number of YouTube videos, I’ve placed an order for an ECQ AMG Line which will be predominantly driven by my OH and been told it should be available at the end of the year/early January.
Hopefully we will be able to get a test drive quite soon & certainly pre-delivery! This will replace our Macan & the Countryman PHEV as the sensible family car option. First choice for my wife would be the yet to be released Evoque PHEV but there’s no sign of this hitting the streets for another 12 months.
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Hopefully we will be able to get a test drive quite soon & certainly pre-delivery! This will replace our Macan & the Countryman PHEV as the sensible family car option. First choice for my wife would be the yet to be released Evoque PHEV but there’s no sign of this hitting the streets for another 12 months.
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granada203028 said:
The problem is that Autocar also do the following testhttps://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mercedes-benz...
Which have won that competition easily and also saved you £20 000.
That car suits small journeys plus the odd long journey compared to the pure BEVs.
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