Company Cars - EV's + BIK

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CooperS

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4,509 posts

221 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Question for the PH Director types out there.

My company car Nissan Leaf is pencilled in for delivery in Feb 20. I'm aware that on and after April 2020 government have changed the policy to push EV cars therefore BIK will be £0.

But is this still true if my car is delivered before this date. I won't be stuck under old policy tax bands will I?

Pintofbest

806 posts

112 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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I have a PHEV (530e) and the BIK rules change by tax year, so next year the tax liability goes down from 16% to 8% I'm not fully sure about full electric however reading up on full electric then registered date does seem to make a difference:

https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/fleet-industry-ne...

Court_S

13,134 posts

179 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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No, your BIk for your existing car changes in line with the regulations at the time.

Quite a few people I work with have just taken delivery of EV’s from the company car scheme on the basis that they’ll be dead cheap as of next year.

RicksAlfas

13,432 posts

246 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Your BIK changes at the tax year, not for the length of time you have the car, so you will pay some weeks on the current rate and then the new rate from the 6th April 2020. Then another rate from 6th April 2021 etc.

CooperS

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4,509 posts

221 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Cheers all. That's what I had hoped! Well that's free motoring which although isn't what I'd buy personally isn't bad considering my take home would be £300 pm allowance (btw I'll be doing 30k miles a year)

Legacywr

12,244 posts

190 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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30k in an EV? How practical is that going to be?

gmint24

24 posts

145 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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30k in an EV...this will be interesting

CooperS

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4,509 posts

221 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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gmint24 said:
30k in an EV...this will be interesting
Very practical. I do 120 a day to commute. The battery has a range of 240 miles at 4kWh/mile. I've average 4.2 in my 60k+ in my i3?

I charge every night atm and I'm hoping this might be every other day?

Anyone who thinks they need to have an effective range over 300 miles is kidding themselves. No one drives that far, regularly with no break....

Terminator X

15,215 posts

206 months

Wednesday 13th November 2019
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Yeah but Winter.

TX.

CooperS

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4,509 posts

221 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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Terminator X said:
Yeah but Winter.

TX.

Ok so it'll be down to 200 mile range as it might go down to 3.5/6 kWh/mile.

But in its defence it has heated seats and steering wheel......

But it's a tool for me to go back and forth to work at little to no cost to me (I also get my mileage too)

caseys

310 posts

170 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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I don't see 30k/year being a problem. I received my EV in March and have done nearly 16k in 8 months, so that's 24k/year and that's just me commuting and pootling around. If you're doing a lot of sub 60mph mileage I think it'll be fine.

Blue Oval84

5,278 posts

163 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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CooperS said:
Terminator X said:
Yeah but Winter.

TX.

Ok so it'll be down to 200 mile range as it might go down to 3.5/6 kWh/mile.

But in its defence it has heated seats and steering wheel......

But it's a tool for me to go back and forth to work at little to no cost to me (I also get my mileage too)
I'm sure you'll be fine in the Leaf based on your usage pattern. I'm struggling a lot more to find an EV that will do a regular 350 mile drive, even during winter without spending ages doing en route charging.

Best I can find is the Tesla M3 LR, which in winter, with a head wind, can manage with two supercharger stops (according to A Better Route Planner) totalling 48 minutes.

The i-pace would, allegedly, require over 2 hours of en route charging according to the same site. That's ridiculous and totally untenable.

CooperS

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221 months

Thursday 14th November 2019
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I pace and e Tron are horribly inefficient.

The kona and e-niro seems to be kings at the moment in terms of efficiency.