Local recycling centres

Local recycling centres

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Spare tyre

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9,583 posts

131 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Not been to one for a year, but a year ago I was there at least 3 times a month

Starting work on our house again soon and was interested to see this story

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/18126866.council-...

It’s interesting, but ultimately I think it will lead to more dumping in country lanes. If I’d spent an hour or so loading up the car and then arrived to be told it was a fiver, I could see why people who see red and dump it elsewhere


My local tip were excellent a few years ago, their anpr flagged me making unusually high visits (moving houses) and they understood and let me get on

How’s your local tip, still a good alpha male day out?

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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There is a weird cognitive disconnect in councils.

They don't want to people to fly tip (a laudable aim), then they make legally dumping waste as hard as possible.


DocJock

8,357 posts

241 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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It's fair enough. Still free at point of access to Hampshire residents (ie the people paying for the service).

Registration takes about 30 seconds through HHC's online portal.

Dixy

2,922 posts

206 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Our local tip has a sign up saying what % was recycled last month, typically 80 ish %, so that is a good thing no matter where it comes from.
Our daughter has moved to a new house out of our area and when we visit frequently take stuff in our big estate as it is simpler.
Stupid council unable to see the bigger picture.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Saw the signs at our local tip yesterday in Hampshire, so can concur it’s definitely happening.

slopes

38,828 posts

188 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Ours is still free for now but they shut the three main HWRC on various days, so you have to spend half the day driving about all over the chuffin county or save it up and go on days when the nearest is open.

StevieBee

12,912 posts

256 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Johnnytheboy said:
There is a weird cognitive disconnect in councils.

They don't want to people to fly tip (a laudable aim), then they make legally dumping waste as hard as possible.
Part of my job is to advise councils on matters relating to waste management and I regularly mention this to them. The problem stems not from those within the council's management but from Councillors who retain too much influence over day to day operations, often in ignorance of the subject over which they have such power.

The theory behind the charging is to limit usage to those that have paid for the service via their council tax. On paper, this is sensible but lacks consideration of practicalities (you may live closest to one site but this might be in a neighbouring borough).

Fast Bug

11,702 posts

162 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Funnily enough I thought this would be Hampshire. I change cars every 3 or 4 months, so will need to keep updating my car which is annoying.

A while back I tried to get rid of some tiles when we did our bathroom, the tio refused to take them. They told me I had to bag them up, take them to another tip 20 miles away and pay £5 a bag. They went in my household bin split over 2 bin days in the end. They really don't help themselves do they?

Spare tyre

Original Poster:

9,583 posts

131 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Fast Bug said:
Funnily enough I thought this would be Hampshire. I change cars every 3 or 4 months, so will need to keep updating my car which is annoying.

A while back I tried to get rid of some tiles when we did our bathroom, the tio refused to take them. They told me I had to bag them up, take them to another tip 20 miles away and pay £5 a bag. They went in my household bin split over 2 bin days in the end. They really don't help themselves do they?
Have a read here about changing cars

https://www.hants.gov.uk/wasteandrecycling/recycli...

Interesting how it’s not linked to the DVla, would be interesting to see if it validates numberplates, or if you can just make one up

The Hampshire system seems like a rush integration at the moment, but I guess it has scope to be a bit more complex and integrated

Spare tyre

Original Poster:

9,583 posts

131 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Fast Bug said:
Funnily enough I thought this would be Hampshire. I change cars every 3 or 4 months, so will need to keep updating my car which is annoying.

A while back I tried to get rid of some tiles when we did our bathroom, the tio refused to take them. They told me I had to bag them up, take them to another tip 20 miles away and pay £5 a bag. They went in my household bin split over 2 bin days in the end. They really don't help themselves do they?
I had exactly the same thing with tiles, had them all in erde 102 trailer (small Halfords job) was told it needed to be bagged, how big is a bag I enquired, bit of back and forth and the guy agreed it could be a builders tonne bag thing. Start the mental thing of transferring them in the car park to a builders bag, got told to move on by a different bloke

Drive round the corner and finish the transfer over, drove back only to be told that bag was too large


Took them home to sulk, where they remained for an age. I had started to slowly deposit them into my home bin, but then thankfully a neighbour had a skip and let me put em in there

Fast Bug

11,702 posts

162 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Linking it to the DVLA wouldn't work for company cars or lease cars. My cars are all registered to MB Brooklands, so would show as Surrey on the system.

I'll just have to remember to change it whenever I change cars.

StressedDave

839 posts

263 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Our County Council has just started a similar scheme, but it's aimed at vans and trailers over a certain size. There's absolutely no cost involved but you're limited to 12 visits per year with such vehicles. It's the work of a moment to input the registration and one of the blokes just wanders up with a phone, takes a picture and you get permission to dump and a nice e-mail from the Council telling you how many visits you've got left.

It's worked well on the one occasion i've used it, but then I've got an estate car and a house I'm not renovating, extending or otherwise generating mountains of st.

HTP99

22,571 posts

141 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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This sort of thing could potentially screw me if it came into effect in Surrey as I have a company demo which can be different from one day to the next, the wife has a Fiat 500 which would be useless on a dump run.

I was caught out about a year ago on my day off (Tuesday), we had a double bed to get shot of so I took it apart in the garden, loaded the car up and off I went to the tip........ the opening hours and days had changed; it was no longer open on a Tuesday!

I had to go elsewhere, not a massive issue but still a pain!

Spare tyre

Original Poster:

9,583 posts

131 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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HTP99 said:
This sort of thing could potentially screw me if it came into effect in Surrey as I have a company demo which can be different from one day to the next, the wife has a Fiat 500 which would be useless on a dump run.

I was caught out about a year ago on my day off (Tuesday), we had a double bed to get shot of so I took it apart in the garden, loaded the car up and off I went to the tip........ the opening hours and days had changed; it was no longer open on a Tuesday!

I had to go elsewhere, not a massive issue but still a pain!
Our house came fully furnished from the previous fella who had died

Sold loads of his stuff for a fiver / tenner on gumtree

Beds seemed in demand

Thankfully we had dry space outside to put it so people could collect and it wasn’t in they way

It’s amazing what you can shift on gumtree / similar sites

Saved a lot of tip trips smile

SS2.

14,464 posts

239 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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I can see this being the thin end of the wedge.

Install ANPR on the premise it will stop cross county recycling - is this really a major problem for the recycling centres?

Monitor all traffic and, in time, start to limit vehicles to X visits per month, gradually reduce this until some / all visits become chargeable.

TwyRob

312 posts

112 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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I posted this in the Knob thread a little while ago about my local place in South Oxon:

TwyRob said:
I went to the tip today to dispose of a medium size slide that had broken in a few crucial places.

The last few times I've been I have been charged to dispose of my allegedly non-household waste. Stuff like wood or an internal door. That is annoying enough, today's visit was on another level.

I had to take my wife's VW T5 as the slide was too large for my Saab. She drives from her wheelchair with handlebars (and it converts back for me) so it has a tail lift that opens with the back doors. The doors can only be opened with the lift, the lift blocks the opening if it stays folded up. I have been told today that if I wish to use this vehicle at the tip again I need a special permission letter from Oxfordshire County Council because someone tripped on a wheelchair tail lift at one of their sites.

I am of the opinion that people should look where they are going so that they see the bright yellow lift with red and white stripes on the side of it. If they trip on it in a supermarket car park or on the street does that make me or an organisation like Tesco liable? I don't think so!

(Before anyone pipes up about Motability usage rules, the visit to the tip directly benefitted the disabled person. She wanted the item gone from her garden, like anyone else with a large enough car would. Much like it is OK to use the car to get her groceries without her in it.)
I am fed up of the stupid conversations I seem to have there about what is and isn't chargeable or what I have to take home again (like paint ffs).

The RE3 place in Reading is excellent with disposal for pretty much anything, including paint, wooden doors and reasonable amounts of rubble without charge. However, you now have to have a disc to prove that you live in one of 3 local authorities and mine did not join in so I'm stuck with complex rules in Oxon and a drive to Oxford to dispose of bricks and similar when I live between Reading and Henley on Thames.

Unsurprisingly, the number of fly tipped sofas etc locally is increasing (not from me!)

CoolHands

18,664 posts

196 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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You have to show your driving licence at mine, showing your home address is in the borough (Harrow)

garythesign

2,094 posts

89 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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We live in the west of Ireland.

5 euro each entry and more for each bag of rubbish.

No surprise there is lots of fly tipping.

borcy

2,887 posts

57 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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Thankfully nothing like that round here. No checks or cameras etc. They take pretty much anything apart from car tyres.

HarryW

15,151 posts

270 months

Sunday 29th December 2019
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I’m in Hampshire too and saw this. I don’t have an issue per se, I must only use the top half a dozen times a year at best. What I did find strange though was it doesn’t apply to the tip at Paulsgrove, which for those not local is a large council estate area north of Portsmouth. I can presume that was done in fear of the amount of man and a van clearance ‘businesses’ from there reverting to fly tipping if they were forced to pay for their activities.