RE: Aston Martin V12 Vantage S | Spotted
RE: Aston Martin V12 Vantage S | Spotted
Thursday 30th January 2020

Aston Martin V12 Vantage S | Spotted

The greatest Aston of a generation, now available for £65k



Is the Aston Martin V12 Vantage S unfairly forgotten in Aston's history? Potentially. Because we all remember the original V12 Vantage, the realisation of that incredible RS Concept and the memorable Clarkson Top Gear vid. The limited edition cars, by their very nature, are often held in high regard, too: GT12, Zagato, V600 to name three. And now the new Vantage is up and running, with the manual gearbox coming to the UK soon and the Roadster not far behind, the previous V12 S is in danger of being forgotten. Which it shouldn't be.

On launch a few years back it was described as "a night and day step up from the previous V12 Vantage"; apparently there was a "leap" from V12 to V12 S, indicative of "just how much room for improvement there actually was." It was more powerful, significantly better to drive, arguably even better to look at and every inch the Vantage flagship to mark 100 years of Aston back in 2013.


But then came the manual V12 S, and the various valedictory specials, and the early Speedshift cars were discarded somewhat. Which means that cars like this Stratus White Vantage, showing just 17,000 miles, are available at £65,990. It's still possible to pay more money for an older V12 Vantage with more miles, which goes to show the value on offer here. Sure, the Speedshift automated manual is far from the greatest, but then neither Aston's six- or seven-speed manuals are particularly pleasant, so it's not like a prospective buyer is missing out on a great combination of gearbox and naturally aspirated engine. Oh alright, we'd rather have one of the V12 Vantage S manuals, too, but the cheapest one of those on PH at the moment is £125k. So basically twice as much.

Just think what the £65,000 - or the same as one of those new 4.0-litre 718s - is buying you here. One of the 21st century's prettiest cars, powered by one of its greatest engines, and with a chassis really able of exploiting it. The Vantage is still raved about for very good reason: naff interior and less-than-perfect transmissions aside, it was absolutely wonderful to drive.


Of course, it would be sensible to have a healthy contingency fund for running a 200mph Aston Martin, and to expect a little more depreciation as well. A V12 doesn't immediately save an Aston, unfortunately, as the residual values of the DB7 Vantage and DB9 can attest.

But the V12 Vantage S is a vastly better car than those two, as well as rarer. There simply isn't anything that offers the Vantage's range of abilities for this money: a contemporary GT3 will be sharper to drive, but cost at least £100,000; you could buy a 12-cylinder Continental GT for the same sort of money, but it'll feel like a ship by comparison; and could you really spend £65k on an F-Type SVR, knowing a V12 Aston is also available? Exactly. Hopefully the V12 S will get the recognition it deserves soon; until then, its underrated status could mean one or two canny purchases to be snapped up.


SPECIFICATION - ASTON MARTIN V12 VANTAGE S
Engine:
5,935cc, V12
Transmission: 7-speed automated manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 573@6,750rpm
Torque (lb ft): 457@5,750rpm
MPG: 19.2
CO2: 343g/km
Recorded mileage: 17,000
First registered: 2014
Price new: £138,000
Yours for: £65,990

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saxy

Original Poster:

258 posts

153 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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This looks very appealing. But in reality, it shouldn't be compared to a 4.0 Cayman GTS, even though prices and performance will be similar (actually i'm sure the cayman will run rings around it). Astons cost a lot to maintain and repair. Perhaps this should be compared with something like a new Vantage. Then it becomes a lot clearer.

If you want to showoff a new flashy car, get a new green/yellow Vantage.

If you want something more classic that will stand the test of time, get the older V12.

cookie1600

2,715 posts

190 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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What a beautiful beast and a lovely bit of engineering. If I bought it, which I probably could, I couldn't afford to run it (I imagine) so it might just stay exactly as it is. Having said that I couldn't live with white bodywork and black wheels, sorry definitely not my thing. Silver wheels would be a start, but not white.

Is that Clarkson video about the best thing he's ever done? The car of course stays centre stage and the sound of it pounding through the hills still makes my spine tingle. But he says so much more when he says very little at all.

oilit

2,805 posts

207 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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cookie1600 said:
Is that Clarkson video about the best thing he's ever done? The car of course stays centre stage and the sound of it pounding through the hills still makes my spine tingle. But he says so much more when he says very little at all.
I fear he was right, that it was the end - but perhaps not in the way in which he meant.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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saxy said:
This looks very appealing. But in reality, it shouldn't be compared to a 4.0 Cayman GTS, even though prices and performance will be similar (actually i'm sure the cayman will run rings around it). Astons cost a lot to maintain and repair. Perhaps this should be compared with something like a new Vantage. Then it becomes a lot clearer.

If you want to showoff a new flashy car, get a new green/yellow Vantage.

If you want something more classic that will stand the test of time, get the older V12.
No they don't, I've had my Aston for 3 years and it hasn't needed anything above servicing, other than a failed AC compressor that was fixed under warranty, a LOT cheaper than my friends 997 911 or another who has the new tinny 2.0 718 Cayman.

The 4.0 GTS will be a fantastic car no doubt but it isn't comparable to a circa 2005 designed British brute of a car, when my house renovations are finished i wouldn't mind trading up to one of these, just need to do a bit more research in to the brakes and costs!



Sebastian Tombs

2,159 posts

221 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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“Naff interior?” Really?
The interiors of this generation of Astons are absolutely superb. A high point in modern car design, and beautifully put together. .

I’m not sure it’s “vastly” better than a DB9 which has a proper auto box, but as I haven’t driven a Vantage I’ll reserve judgement.

Oakman

365 posts

187 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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This should be this weeks Brave Pill

ReformedPistonhead

994 posts

166 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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They are fabulous.

I have had both a DB9 and now a 7-speed manual V12S. The Vantage is in a different league if you want to drive it. Cruising along the DB9 was easier but it would not see where the Vantage went in spirited driving.

I cannot see myself ever selling mine.

Great to see the Clarkson video again. The Chris Harris review of the 7-speed is also worth watching.

soad

34,650 posts

205 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Just re-watched that old video. Hard not to enjoy it.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

210 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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A manual V12S is top of my fantasy car list (unless I become a billionaire overnight, even then...)

And yes, that Top Gear film about it is glorious.

phumy

5,827 posts

266 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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I bought one of these last August, best thing i ever did in buying cars, its an occasion everytime i get in and drive it. Nothing "naff" about my interior.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

210 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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phumy said:
I bought one of these last August, best thing i ever did in buying cars, its an occasion everytime i get in and drive it. Nothing "naff" about my interior.
I think that's just a symptom of being a car journo - every update they drive the new one and think it's better... Eventually you start revising what you thought about the old car as it doesn't have the bluetooth touchscreen arse wiper that the new one has.

cayman-black

13,265 posts

245 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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There is just simply nothing to touch these for the money.

Even the six speed original car is so much better to drive and enjoy than the Ferrari 550/575 and look how much they are, not to mention the Aston is one of the prettiest cars ever made.

Having owned my Carbon Black version since 2015 i can say its beautifully put together , high-grade materials everywhere and has given me zero problems.
I,m sure a GT4 will just be gone but this is not the point of these cars ,it feels special and sounds epic, i really do not push this car though as they do demand respect. I love them.

andymadmak

15,626 posts

299 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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I bought mine just over a year ago, and it's utterly fabulous. I doubt I will ever sell it, yes it's that good. I took it to Italy last year, 3000 mile road trip that took in autobahns, Italian passes and all manner of conditions. It never put a foot wrong and frankly was simply stunning to drive on some very challenging roads.
It's a V12 Aston, with an engine that is spellbinding in it's ability and fearsome in its roar. Every time I parked it up or drove through an Italian village folk pointed and smiled and applauded and encouraged me to 'make some noise'.
At one point, going over the Dolomites we overtook a dutch plate 3 series estate. The driver of that car then chased me all the way to the next rest stop, and pulled in behind me. The Dutch lady driving then approached me and asked if I wouldn't mind her taking a photo of her husband with the car. Of course, I agreed, and before lone there was actually a small crowd, all wanting photos, and all cooing over the Aston.

It's a car that seems to bring out genuine affection in people.
As for running costs? Well, fixed price services and an Aston Timeless warranty make it cheaper to run than my friends big Merc. Troubles? A chafed wire at the very beginning gave all sorts of silly warnings, but AM Nottingham eventually tracked it down and it's been faultless since.

Did I mention the brakes? Best carbon ceramic set up I've ever used. Good feel, progressive and powerful (as you would expect)
Steering? sublime and talkative
Gearbox? Once you learn how to drive an SS3 box, it really is very very good. OK, not PDK good, but good in a really satisfying way. I like the fact that it's an analogue car that requires some effort, and not a glorified playstation game with wheels
Interior? Speak as you find, but I love mine (I have the non haptic dash)

They will never build another car like this. A car that fits you like a glove but with enough space to go two weeks touring. A car that can handle an Alpine pass with greater ability and agility than I can exploit, but can also cruise comfortably, all day at 3 figure speeds whilst outside its 40 degrees C plus.
A car with a naturally aspirated V12, that surely contains some living DNA, because it just sounds ALIVE (and angry!). A car you have to learn to drive, but which rewards that effort with a sense of satisfaction and engagement that is so incredibly rare in today's cars.

In the near future, these prices will be seen as the bargains of the century, and you'll kick yourself for not snapping one up whilst you could. But I say, forget the investment potential - the bloody car is just worth having in its own right, if you have blood in your veins and petrol in your heart

Thorburn

2,447 posts

222 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Krikkit said:
A manual V12S is top of my fantasy car list (unless I become a billionaire overnight, even then...)

And yes, that Top Gear film about it is glorious.
I have a 2016 (Haptic dash) V12 Vantage S coupe with the SS3 box and looked at changing it it for a 2017 V12 Vantage S Roadster with the manual last year. Took it for a half hour test drive and just couldn't get on with it - its too fiddly in the lower gears and the fear would be of one day accidentally going 4th to 1st at speed and causing serious damage to it.

I might have gotten used to it, but the cost to change was £53k, and that's a BIG gamble to make that you'll grow to like something.

To be honest, the SS3 box isn't that bad either - it's a bit quirky and pulling away at uphill junctions and things like that takes a little bit of practice, but it is a car which is all about the event and character rather than ACTUALLY being the fastest thing in the world point to point. I've driven the current Vantage with the 8-speed auto and it all seemed a bit lacking in theatre, full bore shifts in the V12 are savage, in the new car the engine note changes and you might get a few faked pops and bangs from the exhaust.

Jex

873 posts

157 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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I was at a car meet when there was a V8V and a V12V. I think the V12V sounds much nicer too.
Thanks for the reminder of the Clarkson film.

Roma101

859 posts

176 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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That does look very good value and if I had £65k sitting around I would seriously be considering this. I don't even mind the white on black colour combo. It wouldn't have been my first choice, but I'd live with it!

I used to live in a block of flats with an underground car park. There was a chap who lived there and he had a V8V, but he had done some tasteful mods. It sounded absolutely awesome whenever he came or went into the car park. I imagine the V12 would be even better.

phumy

5,827 posts

266 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Krikkit said:
phumy said:
I bought one of these last August, best thing i ever did in buying cars, its an occasion everytime i get in and drive it. Nothing "naff" about my interior.
I think that's just a symptom of being a car journo - every update they drive the new one and think it's better... Eventually you start revising what you thought about the old car as it doesn't have the bluetooth touchscreen arse wiper that the new one has.
hehe

Biggriff

2,312 posts

313 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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It was a car on my fantasy list...... till I bought one. Never meet your heroes. The noise was amazing and that part was fantastic, but the car was dated and the sports seats were designed by Joseph Mengle Inc.

I know it heresy but a Porsche does all this so much better, if with somewhat a less characterful approach.

If you want one, buy one, but just make sure that after an hour you can still walk.

andymadmak

15,626 posts

299 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Biggriff said:
It was a car on my fantasy list...... till I bought one. Never meet your heroes. The noise was amazing and that part was fantastic, but the car was dated and the sports seats were designed by Joseph Mengle Inc.

I know it heresy but a Porsche does all this so much better, if with somewhat a less characterful approach.

If you want one, buy one, but just make sure that after an hour you can still walk.
Interesting. I think it very much depends on your 'build' . I couldn't get on with the sports seats either, but the normal seats are fine, even for really extended run.
That being said, my friend couldn't get on with the normal seats and instead found comfort in the sports seats! (but he is 6ft 5 and built like the proverbial)

Court_S

14,709 posts

206 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Love these; what’s not to like? Small Aston with a massive engine shoehorned under the bonnet.

I also don’t mind the white and black combo.

Thanks for the Clarkson vid; it was great when it was first shown and is still great today.