RE: Berkeley Bandit reborn as lightweight sports car
RE: Berkeley Bandit reborn as lightweight sports car
Monday 16th November 2020

Berkeley Bandit reborn as lightweight sports car

Spiritual successor to fifties model claimed to be compatible with petrol, hydrogen fuel cell and battery power



British sports car maker Berkeley has been revived sixty years after it closed for business with the announcement of a new lightweight sports car, the Bandit. The new business says its two-seater model will be built on a flexible platform that can accommodate petrol, hydrogen cell or battery powertrains. Headed by former aviation and automotive industrial designer, Martin Rees, the project will apparently use environmentally friendly weight-saving materials in place of carbon fibre and chemicals. The company claims it will be traditional and cutting edge at the same time – and is on course to arrive next year.

For those not familiar with the Berkeley name, the firm enjoyed a short but significant period of operation from 1956-1960, when it helped to pioneer mass reduction by mating cleverly designed chassis with motorbike engines. Sir Stirling Moss even raced a Berkeley at Goodwood. The team behind the new Berkeley – which includes Rees’ partner, Simon Scleater, a former employee at race engineering firm RML and Lotus, no less – believes the original company’s innovations were well ahead of their time. It identifies Radical as a good example of a manufacturer which has kept the bike engine-powered car philosophy alive to this day.


The Berkeley of 2020 isn’t here to enter that market, though. The Bandit, shown here in renders, uses a name from one of the firm’s original creations on a car that’s intended to be made using plant-based materials. For example, flax will be used for the car’s structure in place of carbon fibre, while tree-based resin will replace the chemicals normally used to bond the panels. 

“The [original] Berkeley brand’s values of innovation and new technology really resonated with us,” said Scleater. “They built the first production car to use a composite chassis and their use of a two-stroke motorbike powertrain was way ahead of its time, so much so that their use was reinvented some 40 years later when Radical rediscovered the benefits with the launch of its own racing car. Our continuing investment into forward-thinking technology matches the desire and purpose of the original Berkeley Coachworks brand and we aim to deliver a fresh, forward-thinking and purposeful approach to iconic sports car design and the unique driving experience the Berkeley Bandit delivers.”


Adding to the poetic nature of this British brand’s rebirth is the fact it’s to be operated out of the same Biggleswade aerodrome facility as its predecessor. Berkeley Sportscars will also continue with the original organisation's practice of utilising aerospace technology in its machines; the company intends to test components in air races, with in-house staffers including specialists in “making planes faster and more efficient”. 

Rees said that the team intends “to create vehicle solutions that are in tune with the concerns of the public and address these with quality design and engineering solutions”, adding that he believes “forging links between aviation and automotive thinking along with top-class engineering talent will bring new solutions beyond the current mainstream”. If that sounds all a bit pie-in-the-sky (yep, we went there), the firm confidently predicts a working car in April, which suggests the Bandit is already off the drawing board. Something else to add to the list of reasons why 2021 can't come soon enough.





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Slowlygettingit

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945 posts

71 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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So the red one looks like a scalped ‘lightning mcqueen’.....

samoht

7,255 posts

176 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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PHers are already discussing this here :-)

redroadster

1,886 posts

262 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Squint a bit and it looks like a squashed mx5

Ray_Aber

941 posts

306 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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No. It's amateurish.

- The door skin is two dimensional, while the wings are three dimensional. It's jarring.
- The base of the side window graphic falls as one moves to the rear of the car.
- On the white car, side profile, the shutline on the clamshell bonnet does not work well with the feature line. This is a render. In reality, they won't match up. Not for nothing did TVR hide things like shutlines behind scallops and sills (see Griffith).

Sorry, but this is like so many plucky British sports car manufacturers. I like the simplicity of the design, but if you're going to do simple, then it has to be simply elegant, not simply clumsy.

Mind you, it's better than Keating Cars. There's a basket case.

Can someone dig out the SniffPetrol guide to making a UK sports car?

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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I really like that

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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when your surfacing looks terrible even in a render, you've gotta worry about how the real, 3d product is going to look....

donkmeister

12,943 posts

130 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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The article says "it’s to be operated out of the same Biggleswade aerodrome facility as its predecessor"

No it isn't... Berkeley (the defunct caravan and sportscar manufacturer) operated out of a facility on Hitchin Street in Biggleswade, that has since been flattened. A housing estate has been built on the land.

The new Berkeley is sited a few miles away in Old Warden. In all honesty, it's probably as close as they could practicably get, and I think it's brilliant they are at least in the vicinity of Biggleswade.... But the article is incorrect!

blue al

1,438 posts

189 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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Plant based construction...

I think Morgan might have this corner of the market place covered....?

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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blue al said:
Plant based construction...

I think Morgan might have this corner of the market place covered....?
Not for a while now...

rjfp1962

9,359 posts

103 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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A British Copy of a Japanese Copy of a Little 60's British Sports Car....!


AAGR

918 posts

191 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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I may be missing something, but what engine or engines will figure in this little car ?

Gecko1978

12,302 posts

187 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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what engine you ask I would imagine its a compact V18 that can run on petrol, E85 or Unicorn tears, the brakes will be steal, carbon, or adamantium and the tires filled with oxygen, nitrogen or fairy whispers....

AAGR

918 posts

191 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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Gecko1978 said:
what engine you ask I would imagine its a compact V18 that can run on petrol, E85 or Unicorn tears, the brakes will be steal, carbon, or adamantium and the tires filled with oxygen, nitrogen or fairy whispers....
You didn't mention hot air ....

What's the betting that it is a Ford Eco-boost engine under the bonnet ?

Ive

211 posts

199 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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I guess it will be based on an MX-5.
Saves them loads of hassle.

Fetchez la vache

5,903 posts

244 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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article said:
apparently use environmentally friendly weight-saving materials in place of carbon fibre and chemicals.
no "chemicals"?
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... intended to be made using plant-based materials.
I'm intrigued. How do you create parts of a car from plant-based materials without using "chemicals" somewhere in the mix?

Greg the Fish

1,410 posts

96 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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Fetchez la vache said:
I'm intrigued. How do you create parts of a car from plant-based materials without using "chemicals" somewhere in the mix?
I think whoever came up with that marketing waffle may have indulged in some 'chemicals' themselves.

chrisironside

968 posts

192 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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Not sure whether to buy an S2000 or an Alpine A110? Boy do I have the car for you!

sisu

3,011 posts

203 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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You could also get the Italian version from Dallara if small mid engined sports cars are your thing. Real aero, real handling and all the helmsmen hacks are foaming over it.

devnull

3,864 posts

187 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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No-one cares about renders. Go and build it and give us a price.

dukebox9reg

1,721 posts

178 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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to my eyes, especially the blue convertible it looks like a Z4 kit car (with a bit of cobra kit car spare bits thrown in), with some material tacked on the front and back

For me at least there is not one ounce of want for this