Stopping distance, white stop line.
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Quick question, I seen the lights go to amber, I was quiete close to the lights I probably could have made it through before it turned red (car next to me decided to do just that) however there was no one behind me so I decided to stop, I pressed my breaks a bit harder than usual and came to a complete stop, at that point my car went a little bit over the white stop line (roughly my 2 front wheels were bang on behind the stop line) the lights went to red, I have remained completely stationary, put my handbrake on until the lights turned green, then I have moved off.
Now Is that considered an offence? There was no way on earth I could have stopped any quicker especially with the roads being wet.
Now Is that considered an offence? There was no way on earth I could have stopped any quicker especially with the roads being wet.
Baaaartz said:
Quick question, I seen the lights go to amber, I was quiete close to the lights I probably could have made it through before it turned red (car next to me decided to do just that) however there was no one behind me so I decided to stop, I pressed my breaks a bit harder than usual and came to a complete stop, at that point my car went a little bit over the white stop line (roughly my 2 front wheels were bang on behind the stop line) the lights went to red, I have remained completely stationary, put my handbrake on until the lights turned green, then I have moved off.
Now Is that considered an offence? There was no way on earth I could have stopped any quicker especially with the roads being wet.
If any part of the vehicle is moving beyond the stop line when the lights are red then the offence is commited. If there was no camera enforcement then you are unlikey to have a problem.Now Is that considered an offence? There was no way on earth I could have stopped any quicker especially with the roads being wet.
Oh...and it's brakes not breaks
catman said:
You should have approached the lights at a speed where you could stop, allowing for the conditions.
Had you committed an offence, blaming wet roads wouldn't have been an excuse.
How do you stop in timei if they change when youre 10feet from the stop line? travelling at the posted limit? Impossible short of slowing to 10mph as soon as the lights come into viewHad you committed an offence, blaming wet roads wouldn't have been an excuse.
Shaw Tarse said:
Have a look at OP's post history 
There does appear to be a similar theme running:https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Bigends said:
catman said:
You should have approached the lights at a speed where you could stop, allowing for the conditions.
Had you committed an offence, blaming wet roads wouldn't have been an excuse.
How do you stop in timei if they change when youre 10feet from the stop line? travelling at the posted limit? Impossible short of slowing to 10mph as soon as the lights come into viewHad you committed an offence, blaming wet roads wouldn't have been an excuse.
Gareth79 said:
Bigends said:
catman said:
You should have approached the lights at a speed where you could stop, allowing for the conditions.
Had you committed an offence, blaming wet roads wouldn't have been an excuse.
How do you stop in timei if they change when youre 10feet from the stop line? travelling at the posted limit? Impossible short of slowing to 10mph as soon as the lights come into viewHad you committed an offence, blaming wet roads wouldn't have been an excuse.
Bigends said:
How do you stop in timei if they change when youre 10feet from the stop line? travelling at the posted limit? Impossible short of slowing to 10mph as soon as the lights come into view
If the light changes to red when you are 10 feet from the stop line then you have ignored/failed to notice the 3 seconds of amber that preceded it. If the light turns amber when you are 10 feet away you will clear the stop line long before the red illuminates.
Cat
Edited by Cat on Friday 20th November 22:57
catman said:
The speed limit is exactly that. A limit, a maximum. It doesn't mean that it's safe to approach a set of traffic lights, or any other hazard at that speed, particularly if the road is wet
You're missing the point, the OP's post was about them changing to amber not red, even if you have slowed and are approaching a set of light at say 20mph, if they change to amber when you are 10ft away you are not going to stop, A. because you can't and B. because it wouldn't be safe to even try, hence the reson for the 3 second gap between amber and red to allow you to stop safely if you are far enough away from the lightsBaaaartz said:
Quick question, I seen the lights go to amber, I was quiete close to the lights I probably could have made it through before it turned red (car next to me decided to do just that) however there was no one behind me so I decided to stop, I pressed my breaks a bit harder than usual and came to a complete stop, at that point my car went a little bit over the white stop line (roughly my 2 front wheels were bang on behind the stop line) the lights went to red, I have remained completely stationary, put my handbrake on until the lights turned green, then I have moved off.
Now Is that considered an offence? There was no way on earth I could have stopped any quicker especially with the roads being wet.
AMBER means ‘Stop’ at the stop line. You may go on only if the AMBER appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident, (from the highway code, section- light signals controlling traffic).Now Is that considered an offence? There was no way on earth I could have stopped any quicker especially with the roads being wet.
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