M1 SPECS Cameras

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vetteheadracer

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254 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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M1 JUNCTION 20-21 -ROAD WORKS AND SPEED ENFORCEMENT

 

From Wednesday 29th June 2005, road works will commence on the M1 motorway between Junctions 20 and 21.

The first phase of a scheme to ensure the M1 in Leicestershire remains safe and in good condition, and to lay lower noise surfacing begins on Friday 8th July. The work is likely to last 20 weeks. 

Advance work will start on Wednesday 29th June but this will not affect road users.Traffic management will starton Friday 8th Julyand involves 24-hour work with three lanes of traffic open in both directions at all times using narrow lanes and contra-flows.  Various well-signed lane and slip road closures will be necessary at off-peak times.

IMPORTANT

Please be aware that delays are possible and that journey times may be affected.

SAFETY

To ensure the safety of road workers and road users on this busy stretch,a 24 hour 40 mph speed limit will be in operation during the works.  To enforce this temporary speed limit, SPECS safety cameras will monitor speeds along the route. SPECS cameras calculate speed over distance and those motorists exceeding an average of 40mph along the route will be liable to prosecution.

The safety cameras are being provided in partnership with the Leicester, Leicestershire and Rutland Road Safety Camera Partnership and are intended to ensure safe working conditions for road workers and will lead to smoother and more efficient traffic flow.

7db

6,058 posts

231 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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Also less cynical if the limit were raised at night with no workers.

timtonal

2,049 posts

234 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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Motorway + 40mph + specs = kerching!

I bet they do this over the full distance between the 2 junctions - 10 miles or so.

I would be less cynical if they did work like this in 2 mile sections - moving on to the next section when they've completed the first but this is too much like common sense.

Of course the camera partnership would lose out and there, everybody is the REAL reason for schemes like this methinks!

That stretch isn't all that busy compared to South of J19 and North of 21.

TripleS

4,294 posts

243 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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One little detail I do welcome is the reference to the laying of a lower noise road surface.

IIRC there was a discussion about speed and road safety on the Jimmy Young/Jeremy Vine programme some time back, in which somebody mentioned a policy of using rough and noisy surfaces as a means of encouraging people to drive more slowly. I don't know if this is or ever has been a deliberate policy but I certainly hope not.

There are quite enough traffic calming (which means driver irritating) features already in the system, whereas what we ought to be seeking are driver calming influences. I suspect that bad road surfaces do actually have an adverse effect on drivers, even if it is only at the subconscious level.

If I had my way we would be having smooth, bump free surfaces with reasonable grip properties, and none of this rumble strip nonsense.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

smeggy

3,241 posts

240 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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www.leics.gov.uk/index/highways/road_pathway_maintenance/roadworks/roadworks_m1.htm

www.leics.gov.uk said:
To enforce this temporary speed limit, SPECS safety cameras will monitor speeds along the route.

Are they allowed to do this?

Current scam placement policy states that these can only be installed at areas with previous history of KSIs or speeding.
However, there has obviously been no problem at sites like these (otherwise a scam will already be there), so how can they justify placement of new scams in advance?

(purely out of interest)

LongQ

13,864 posts

234 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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TripleS said:
One little detail I do welcome is the reference to the laying of a lower noise road surface.

IIRC there was a discussion about speed and road safety on the Jimmy Young/Jeremy Vine programme some time back, in which somebody mentioned a policy of using rough and noisy surfaces as a means of encouraging people to drive more slowly. I don't know if this is or ever has been a deliberate policy but I certainly hope not.



Isn't it the lower noise surface which is also claimed to have rather poor skid resistance after a farily short period of use?

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

235 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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smeggy said:
Are they allowed to do this?


Yes, the cameras are there to protect the workforce.

I laugh at people who get caught by SPECS systems on the motorway.

TripleS

4,294 posts

243 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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LongQ said:

TripleS said:
One little detail I do welcome is the reference to the laying of a lower noise road surface.

IIRC there was a discussion about speed and road safety on the Jimmy Young/Jeremy Vine programme some time back, in which somebody mentioned a policy of using rough and noisy surfaces as a means of encouraging people to drive more slowly. I don't know if this is or ever has been a deliberate policy but I certainly hope not.


Isn't it the lower noise surface which is also claimed to have rather poor skid resistance after a farily short period of use?


I have no information about surface noise levels v. skid resistance for different types of surface, but maybe a smooth surface will become polished and even smoother after a relatively short period of service.

This might be OK in dry conditions but it could be a rather different matter when wet.

Even so, for my own purposes I still prefer smooth quiet surfaces, and I'll make the necessary adjustments to avoid going off and hitting things. What other people may get up to is another matter though, unfortunately.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

247 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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IIRC the quiet stuff is slightly porous and is reasonably good at skid resistance, especially in the wet. The super slippery stuff that has been getting bad reports is not porous - different stuff called SMA (I thought that was baby milk). Apparently it looks just like normal tarmac and is the reason why you get "slippery road for x hundred yards" signs on apparently normal stretches of surface. As a biker, I would particularly appreciate it if someone could point out a distinguishing feature of the slippery stuff. I haven't come to grief yet, but I don't know if that's because it does in fact give some visual clue to its lack of grip so I've been compensating without actually classifying the stuff as SMA, or if I've just been lucky.