Anybody here been done by SPECS?

Anybody here been done by SPECS?

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bad_roo

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5,187 posts

238 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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Just curious to see if the system actually works...

softtop

3,058 posts

248 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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yes about 2 years ago. They send you a photo of the car and one of the number plate close up. The image was at night and of course being from above the car ther was no recognition of the driver.

Mutant Rat

9,939 posts

246 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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No, but I had a colleague at work who was clocked by the system in Nottingham.

pdV6

16,442 posts

262 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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A question for you - with SPECS its a time/distance calculation between 2 fixed points, so how are you supposed to defend oneself if you know you didn't break the limit at the time/date specified and suspect a technical snafu?

softtop

3,058 posts

248 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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the options are listed as to what they use to detect. I dont know if they choose one and use the other for confirmation? but they are:-
primary and secondary speed, distance and elapsed time

Boosted LS1

21,188 posts

261 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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pdV6 said:
A question for you - with SPECS its a time/distance calculation between 2 fixed points, so how are you supposed to defend oneself if you know you didn't break the limit at the time/date specified and suspect a technical snafu?


You need to be unable to provide driver details so wait a while before you send the NIP back.

Boosted.

smeggy

3,241 posts

240 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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pdV6 said:
A question for you - with SPECS its a time/distance calculation between 2 fixed points, so how are you supposed to defend oneself if you know you didn't break the limit at the time/date specified and suspect a technical snafu?
As I understand it, your only hope would be to prove the distance between the cameras is in error (likely only if true) or to prove an error of the time stamp in either picture, which is extremely unlikely even if true

smeggy

3,241 posts

240 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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If SPECS spots a speeder during the night, how could the video prove a cloned plate wasn't used, considering it won't show the model, colour or even the driver of the car?

guizer

49 posts

230 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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Or if you stopped on the hard shoulder 'cos you were unwell, swapped drivers, then drove onwards??

smeggy

3,241 posts

240 months

Monday 4th July 2005
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guizer said:
Or if you stopped on the hard shoulder 'cos you were unwell, swapped drivers, then drove onwards??
Or you could just briefly stop on the hard sholder between cameras, before/after a major blat

scoule

299 posts

285 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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Or two identical cars could work together to get any speed reading they chose ...

450mph in your 1.4 Astra sir .. tsk tsk ..

z3stu

161 posts

240 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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My friend has a friend that makes these cameras and he reckons at the moment if it is a double lane road and you cross over before you come out of the other side they can not detect the speed. But he did say that it is only a matter of time before technology catches up and changes this.

Stu

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

235 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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Yup, a pair of SPECS can only monitor one lane at a time. I'm not sure about when you have more than one pair though, perhaps they share the information?

However, if I was in charge, being sneaky like I am, I'd design an over-large case for the camera so that it could point at another lane, and still appear to be looking at the lane you're driving in.

So I take no chances.

smeggy

3,241 posts

240 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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parrot of doom said:
Yup, a pair of SPECS can only monitor one lane at a time.
I think you are right. A long shot........

So in the case of a SPECS system enforcing multiple lanes: will a SPECS camera monitor an entire lane, or is there an unmonitored ‘dead spot’ in-between lanes?

scoule

299 posts

285 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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Paint your car reflective white or yellow and cover it with randomly placed number plate sized letters ...

The chance of specs finding the correct number sequence is??

softtop

3,058 posts

248 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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smeggy said:

parrot of doom said:
Yup, a pair of SPECS can only monitor one lane at a time.

I think you are right. A long shot........

So in the case of a SPECS system enforcing multiple lanes: will a SPECS camera monitor an entire lane, or is there an unmonitored ‘dead spot’ in-between lanes?


are you sure? have you seen pictures from the cameras? i think they can see more than you think.

forever_driving

1,869 posts

251 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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scoule said:
Paint your car reflective white or yellow and cover it with randomly placed number plate sized letters ...

The chance of specs finding the correct number sequence is??


Hmm, wonder how legal something like this is...

smeggy

3,241 posts

240 months

Tuesday 5th July 2005
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softtop said:

are you sure? have you seen pictures from the cameras? i think they can see more than you think.
I have seen multiple cameras enforce the same carriageway (two cameras for two lanes), so it made sense that these things enforce 1 lane each. Also, the resolution of the imager is not so great (VGA I believe), so it would be difficult for 1 camera to get a sharp shot of a VRM whilst covering many lanes.

Don't forget, these images are usually backed up by normal video (for confirmation purposes) which cover a lot more area.


I stand to be corrected