Somerset Police were wrong but it's a long time ago

Somerset Police were wrong but it's a long time ago

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Mick50NCD

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94 posts

106 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Because of the internet that educates both us lot and the Police I have found just now that I should not have been prosecuted by overzealous, avaricious
Traffic Cops in a White Range Rover when I overtook two lanes of standing traffic waiting to turn left at a notorious junction off the motorway about the middle of Somerset going south. At the time the cop said -"you cannot use the outside lane with a boat on the back of your car" and you will be prosecuted. On the internet a driver can use the outside lane if the two lanes are stationary as in my case. There was no where else to go unless that officer would rather me have halted at the back of that middle lane long queue and have possibly been hit up the arse by an artic?
He was also in the middle lane of the motorway and was waiting to turn left as were the other vehicles.

I was going to Falmouth and it was the Spring Bank Holiday...... I was going diving and was meeting my pals in Cornwall.
My Volvo Estate with a boat trailer with boat was about 300 kg total and easily past those two queues.

I saw him turn out of the queue from his parked position and speed after me in my rear mirror and thought I wonder what he wants?.
It cast me £50 plus points at that time which I thought was diabolical because I was doing no harm to anyone........
He obviously had nothing else better to do but persecute me F coppers. He also tied without luck to get me to say I was speeding because he said you seem to be travelling a bit quickly when you passed us.... Yes I said, exactly 60 miles per hour He said don't you know you are not allowed in the outside lane with a trailer? I said I knew HGV vehicles were not allowed but not a car with a trailer..... I should have contested that NIP because according to what I read if there is both lanes blocked a driver is allowed to pass on the outside lane and as well as that need not to change lanes if it is dangerous to do so. I am all ears regards what any other drivers would have done? Would they have pulled up and parked at the back of that middle lane traffic?

Edited by Mick50NCD on Monday 8th February 22:54

Pit Pony

8,832 posts

123 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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But you had the opportunity to plead not guilty and have your solicitor take a pile of law books into.the magistrates court, and point out the case law and get you off....

Every day a journey

1,665 posts

40 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Ok.

MarkwG

4,879 posts

191 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Which bit of the internet - as far as I can recall, the only exceptions are when directed by a police officer, or when lanes 1 & 2 are blocked by an emergency situation.

DanielSan

18,851 posts

169 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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swisstoni

17,180 posts

281 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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I would not consider a motorway ‘blocked’ if lanes are queuing.

dudleybloke

19,983 posts

188 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Demand trial by combat.

Earthdweller

13,661 posts

128 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Mick50NCD said:
Because of the internet that educates both us lot and the Police I have found just now that I should not have been prosecuted by overzealous, avaricious
Traffic Cops in a White Range Rover when I overtook two lanes of standing traffic waiting to turn left at a notorious junction off the motorway about the middle of Somerset going south. At the time the cop said -"you cannot use the outside lane with a boat on the back of your car" and you will be prosecuted. On the internet a driver can use the outside lane if the two lanes are stationary as in my case. There was no where else to go unless that officer would rather me have halted at the back of that middle lane long queue and have possibly been hit up the arse by an artic?
He was also in the middle lane of the motorway and was waiting to turn left as were the other vehicles.

I was going to Falmouth and it was the Spring Bank Holiday...... I was going diving and was meeting my pals in Cornwall.
My Volvo Estate with a boat trailer with boat was about 300 kg total and easily past those two queues.

I saw him turn out of the queue from his parked position and speed after me in my rear mirror and thought I wonder what he wants?.
It cast me £50 plus points at that time which I thought was diabolical because I was doing no harm to anyone........
He obviously had nothing else better to do but persecute me F coppers. He also tied without luck to get me to say I was speeding because he said you seem to be travelling a bit quickly when you passed us.... Yes I said, exactly 60 miles per hour He said don't you know you are not allowed in the outside lane with a trailer? I said I knew HGV vehicles were not allowed but not a car with a trailer..... I should have contested that NIP because according to what I read if there is both lanes blocked a driver is allowed to pass on the outside lane and as well as that need not to change lanes if it is dangerous to do so. I am all ears regards what any other drivers would have done? Would they have pulled up and parked at the back of that middle lane traffic?

Edited by Mick50NCD on Monday 8th February 22:54
Quoted for posterity

motorway Regulations pfft !

It was a bank holiday .. you have a flash boat and a need to go diving !

Are you a company director ?


anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 8th February 2021
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Maybe your starboard stern indicator was bust and then you failed the attitude test?

fttm

3,728 posts

137 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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300 kg you say ? How long has this anger been building inside you , since last Spring or years ago ? Sounds rather extreme for the sake of 50 quid

SmoothCriminal

5,083 posts

201 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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Mick50NCD said:
Because of the internet that educates both us lot and the Police I have found just now that I should not have been prosecuted by overzealous, avaricious
Traffic Cops in a White Range Rover when I overtook two lanes of standing traffic waiting to turn left at a notorious junction off the motorway about the middle of Somerset going south. At the time the cop said -"you cannot use the outside lane with a boat on the back of your car" and you will be prosecuted. On the internet a driver can use the outside lane if the two lanes are stationary as in my case. There was no where else to go unless that officer would rather me have halted at the back of that middle lane long queue and have possibly been hit up the arse by an artic?
He was also in the middle lane of the motorway and was waiting to turn left as were the other vehicles.

I was going to Falmouth and it was the Spring Bank Holiday...... I was going diving and was meeting my pals in Cornwall.
My Volvo Estate with a boat trailer with boat was about 300 kg total and easily past those two queues.

I saw him turn out of the queue from his parked position and speed after me in my rear mirror and thought I wonder what he wants?.
It cast me £50 plus points at that time which I thought was diabolical because I was doing no harm to anyone........
He obviously had nothing else better to do but persecute me F coppers. He also tied without luck to get me to say I was speeding because he said you seem to be travelling a bit quickly when you passed us.... Yes I said, exactly 60 miles per hour He said don't you know you are not allowed in the outside lane with a trailer? I said I knew HGV vehicles were not allowed but not a car with a trailer..... I should have contested that NIP because according to what I read if there is both lanes blocked a driver is allowed to pass on the outside lane and as well as that need not to change lanes if it is dangerous to do so. I am all ears regards what any other drivers would have done? Would they have pulled up and parked at the back of that middle lane traffic?

Edited by Mick50NCD on Monday 8th February 22:54
60 past 2 lanes of stand still traffic with a trailer on, you're certainly braver than me

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

175 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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Mick50NCD said:
Because of the internet that educates both us lot and the Police I have found just now that I should not have been prosecuted by overzealous, avaricious
Traffic Cops in a White Range Rover when I overtook two lanes of standing traffic waiting to turn left at a notorious junction off the motorway about the middle of Somerset going south. At the time the cop said -"you cannot use the outside lane with a boat on the back of your car" and you will be prosecuted. On the internet a driver can use the outside lane if the two lanes are stationary as in my case. There was no where else to go unless that officer would rather me have halted at the back of that middle lane long queue and have possibly been hit up the arse by an artic?
He was also in the middle lane of the motorway and was waiting to turn left as were the other vehicles.

I was going to Falmouth and it was the Spring Bank Holiday...... I was going diving and was meeting my pals in Cornwall.
My Volvo Estate with a boat trailer with boat was about 300 kg total and easily past those two queues.

I saw him turn out of the queue from his parked position and speed after me in my rear mirror and thought I wonder what he wants?.
It cast me £50 plus points at that time which I thought was diabolical because I was doing no harm to anyone........
He obviously had nothing else better to do but persecute me F coppers. He also tied without luck to get me to say I was speeding because he said you seem to be travelling a bit quickly when you passed us.... Yes I said, exactly 60 miles per hour He said don't you know you are not allowed in the outside lane with a trailer? I said I knew HGV vehicles were not allowed but not a car with a trailer..... I should have contested that NIP because according to what I read if there is both lanes blocked a driver is allowed to pass on the outside lane and as well as that need not to change lanes if it is dangerous to do so. I am all ears regards what any other drivers would have done? Would they have pulled up and parked at the back of that middle lane traffic?

Edited by Mick50NCD on Monday 8th February 22:54
But you are not the least bit bitter about it.

jonnywishbone.

906 posts

48 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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Mick50NCD said:
He obviously had nothing else better to do but persecute me F coppers.
Slagging off an entire profession, which only exists to keep you safe, because of the intersection of one officer with your inflated sense of entitlement, is not cool.

can't remember

1,080 posts

130 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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You should be fined another 50 quid for the crimes you perpetrated against the English language in that post.

Roger Irrelevant

2,971 posts

115 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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MarkwG said:
Which bit of the internet - as far as I can recall, the only exceptions are when directed by a police officer, or when lanes 1 & 2 are blocked by an emergency situation.
That was my understanding too - backed up by a quick google. If other lanes are open, you can't use lane 3 with a trailer. Though it's clearly inconvenient, if traffic was queueing in lanes 1 and 2 they clearly were open. I was interested to check this as I once sat with my father in law in lane 2 (him driving), in similar circumstances for bloody ages. Tbh I probably would have used lane 3, but it would have been a fair cop if caught. I'll surmise that if the OP hadn't been doing 60 with a trailer past stationary traffic the police might just have let it slide.

StuntmanMike

11,671 posts

153 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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SmoothCriminal said:
Mick50NCD said:
Because of the internet that educates both us lot and the Police I have found just now that I should not have been prosecuted by overzealous, avaricious
Traffic Cops in a White Range Rover when I overtook two lanes of standing traffic waiting to turn left at a notorious junction off the motorway about the middle of Somerset going south. At the time the cop said -"you cannot use the outside lane with a boat on the back of your car" and you will be prosecuted. On the internet a driver can use the outside lane if the two lanes are stationary as in my case. There was no where else to go unless that officer would rather me have halted at the back of that middle lane long queue and have possibly been hit up the arse by an artic?
He was also in the middle lane of the motorway and was waiting to turn left as were the other vehicles.

I was going to Falmouth and it was the Spring Bank Holiday...... I was going diving and was meeting my pals in Cornwall.
My Volvo Estate with a boat trailer with boat was about 300 kg total and easily past those two queues.

I saw him turn out of the queue from his parked position and speed after me in my rear mirror and thought I wonder what he wants?.
It cast me £50 plus points at that time which I thought was diabolical because I was doing no harm to anyone........
He obviously had nothing else better to do but persecute me F coppers. He also tied without luck to get me to say I was speeding because he said you seem to be travelling a bit quickly when you passed us.... Yes I said, exactly 60 miles per hour He said don't you know you are not allowed in the outside lane with a trailer? I said I knew HGV vehicles were not allowed but not a car with a trailer..... I should have contested that NIP because according to what I read if there is both lanes blocked a driver is allowed to pass on the outside lane and as well as that need not to change lanes if it is dangerous to do so. I am all ears regards what any other drivers would have done? Would they have pulled up and parked at the back of that middle lane traffic?

Edited by Mick50NCD on Monday 8th February 22:54
60 past 2 lanes of stand still traffic with a trailer on, you're certainly braver than me
Braver is not the word I’d use.

Your kinder than me. rofl

Baldchap

7,761 posts

94 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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HGVs can't use lane 3 in heavy traffic. Neither can cars with trailers.

Pretty simple really.

vaud

50,799 posts

157 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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OP, whilst avoiding the pile on, I don’t think queuing traffic counts as blocked. If a Lane was closed then I think that is when you could use Lane 3.

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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What kind of boat and trailer only weighs 300kgs?

vaud

50,799 posts

157 months

Tuesday 9th February 2021
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pablo said:
What kind of boat and trailer only weighs 300kgs?
Small rib? Larger rib without engine and bits?