Better brake wind back tool
Better brake wind back tool
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HustleRussell

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26,581 posts

190 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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A few years ago I replaced the rear pads on a friend’s car. I bought this Sealey wind-back tool for the purpose;



The tool only just fit into the calliper.

Once in place it was a real struggle to get it to do it’s thing. The callipers on this car (Ibiza 6L) were very very stiff and difficult to wind back. It took all of my strength, and by the time it was done my hands hurt and the T-bar on the wind-back tool was bent. I did remove the reservoir cap prior to starting so I don’t think I was fighting against hydraulic pressure?

The car now needs new pads again. The pads haven’t lasted long or worn especially evenly (the inner piston side wearing at a faster rate than the outer sliding side) but in my opinion it’s not bad enough to condemn the callipers. Yes I did properly clean up and lubricate the sliding pins.

However I don’t want to struggle so much this time so I am asking for recommendations for a better wind-back tool or tips to make winding back the pistons easier- could a rubber safe lubricant be used? Suggestions?

vetrof

3,039 posts

203 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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You do take the cap off the fluid reservoir don't you?

mw88

1,457 posts

141 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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Got a similar tool for the rears on my Accord, and similar issues.

Took me years to figure out you could put a 19mm socket on the end and use a ratchet instead of the useless t-bar.

Only workaround I've got for it not fitting in the calliper easily, is try not to let the pads get that low.

Edited by mw88 on Monday 26th July 11:40

HustleRussell

Original Poster:

26,581 posts

190 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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vetrof said:
You do take the cap off the fluid reservoir don't you?
Yep

GreenV8S

31,024 posts

314 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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If it takes that much force, there's something wrong - probably with the caliper. All you should be doing is pushing an O ring inside a smooth bore. It takes a bit of force, but not enough to bend stuff.

Darkslider

3,084 posts

219 months

Monday 26th July 2021
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Check the rubber dust boot around the piston, any nicks or tears in it normally means water will have got in and corroded the finish of the piston, making it seize slightly and hard to wind back. Calipers will probably be less than £50 each for that car so consider replacing the whole unit for an easy life.

mikes2w

49 posts

240 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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I use a Sykes Pickavant tool for the Audi 38mm pistons - same as the Seat.

I've tried one like you have and they're very poor - the 2 pins always slip when you try and exert force and the black plate is so thin it just bends

The advantage of the Sykes tool is that it can be turned using a ratchet with extension bars 3/8" drive

InitialDave

15,137 posts

149 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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I've always found rear pistons that aren't sticking screw back in with very little axial force, just using one of those cube tools that gives multiple options for pin patterns and is driven by a ratchet.

Hell, I've found a pair of water pump pliers works just fine as long as you're only grabbing the very end of the piston so not damaging the sealing surface.

Belle427

11,953 posts

263 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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Probably time for some new calipers, quite common on vag stuff.

HustleRussell

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26,581 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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Yep it was 2x new callipers in the end. They were obviously on their way out last time. I couldn’t get the offside one to turn at all even with my big pair of water pump pliers.

BlueFocus

399 posts

63 months

Sunday 1st August 2021
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I always found water pump pliers and a g clamp did the job

Krikkit

27,938 posts

211 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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I have one of those cheap wind-back tools as per the OP, all I did was grind off one set of lugs to improve clearance and it's worked bob-on ever since.

The only awkward ones are knackered calipers mind, and I tend to strip the calipers and put fresh pistons in all mine after purchase

Belle427

11,953 posts

263 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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I quite like the air assisted wind back tools, nice to use.
Think sykes and laser do them.

SRAutoSolutions

5 posts

62 months

Monday 2nd August 2021
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ive been using a cheap ebay set (both LH + RH) for maybe the last 5 or 6 years and never had an issue with them and i use them several times a week.

Cut the bendy T bars off and get a 22mm nut off a steering arm welded on and you'll be fine,

Sometimes a wee lift of the boot and a skoosh of appropriate grease before winding back helps, (you also need to be sure which way they turn) but ultimately if you have problems with them moving back its nearing new caliper time.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

5,182 posts

253 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2021
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I use a screw driver, If its the front ,I remount the calliper without the pads, and then leant screwdriver against the old discs and pushed against the piston, works fine,

for the rears, if they have to be wound back then I do a similar trick only I slide the screw driver into the recess in the piston and turn it like you turn a tap on, and keep going until I have enough clearance.

hth