Getrag Ratios

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DHGTR

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1,196 posts

244 months

Sunday 24th July 2005
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guys do any of you know the gear ratios for the getrag box. and secondly do any of you have the gearbox speed calculator program that you can send me. i have tried to access the locost website that we used to get links for on here but it seems to have died. cheers dave.

steve_D

13,759 posts

259 months

Sunday 24th July 2005
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Mail me and I will reply with gearcalc.
You can't attach when mailing through profile.

Steve

mclark

582 posts

237 months

Sunday 24th July 2005
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Hi Dave,

I think GrahamP has the ratios.

That trip in Lee's as done the job

Michael

Graham-P

1,548 posts

247 months

Sunday 24th July 2005
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Dave,
These are the ratios I have for Getrag 996 6speed C2 as supplied by the factory.
1st 3.82
2nd 2.30
3rd 1.52
4th 1.22
5th 1.02
6th 0.84
Diff ratio 3.44
I believe they come with LSD (well mine did anyway!)

Graham

dhgtr

Original Poster:

1,196 posts

244 months

Sunday 24th July 2005
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thanks for the replies guys.

mike, I have upset Lee by suggesting his 640bhp and getrag box may not be enough to get him to 200mph :-(

graham thanks for that, perhaps i can cheer Lee up ???

Steve, i shall mail you now

ultimad

315 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2005
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On the subject, does anyone know what the top speed of the 640bhp Chevvy and factory supplied Getrag is ? This is the combo I am aiming for in my build. If I wanted to change the top end speed from the standard, how straightforward would it be (pardon my ignorance)?

builder

1,225 posts

243 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2005
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DHGTR said:
guys do any of you know the gear ratios for the getrag box. and secondly do any of you have the gearbox speed calculator program that you can send me. i have tried to access the locost website that we used to get links for on here but it seems to have died. cheers dave.

Check here for lots of trans links.

-- Scott

>> Edited by builder on Thursday 4th August 01:46

DHGTR

Original Poster:

1,196 posts

244 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2005
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Hi Scott, dead link i'm afraid.

Andy, using ratios posted here the top speed is 176mph.

mclark

582 posts

237 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2005
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steve_D

13,759 posts

259 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2005
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DHGTR said:
Hi Scott, dead link i'm afraid.

Andy, using ratios posted here the top speed is 176mph.


All depends on what the top revs are.
Factory sheet for the records states 231mph.

Steve

B1 ECC

388 posts

256 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2005
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G50 or Getrag at 6500 rpm your in the 170mph bracket!

B1 ECC

388 posts

256 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2005
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All depends on what the top revs are.
Factory sheet for the records states 231mph.

Steve[/quote]

For that, with standard gearing you need 8700 rpm, which is fine if you installed a DFL!

steve_D

13,759 posts

259 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2005
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B1 ECC said:
All depends on what the top revs are.
Factory sheet for the records states 231mph.

Steve[/quote]

For that, with standard gearing you need 8700 rpm, which is fine if you installed a DFL![/quote]

Gareth's motor will pull 8000 at a pinch. Don't know what the factory 640 pulls.

Steve

builder

1,225 posts

243 months

Thursday 4th August 2005
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DHGTR said:
Hi Scott, dead link i'm afraid.

Andy, using ratios posted here the top speed is 176mph.
Oops! Yes, that is correct Michael. Here's the link.

andygtt

8,345 posts

265 months

Thursday 4th August 2005
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I was told the factory 640 isn't the same engine as gareths and is actually a larger displacment (ie not a 377)... if so it suggests to me its unlikely to rev as high as gareths.

Also I don't think gareth used a getrag did he?

steve_d

13,759 posts

259 months

Thursday 4th August 2005
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andygtt said:
I was told the factory 640 isn't the same engine as gareths and is actually a larger displacment (ie not a 377)... if so it suggests to me its unlikely to rev as high as gareths.

Also I don't think gareth used a getrag did he?


Gareth does not have a Getrag but a factory owned box was fitted for the tests. What type it was I don't know but as you say it was unlikely to be Getrag.
I think it went somewhere along the lines of 'If there's a possiblity of the box going bang it's not going to be mine'.

Steve

ultimad

315 posts

227 months

Thursday 4th August 2005
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Thanks for the replies. How straightforward is it to change the gearing in the GETRAG, should I want to change the suggested 176 mph top speed.

B1 ECC

388 posts

256 months

Thursday 4th August 2005
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ultimad said:
Thanks for the replies. How straightforward is it to change the gearing in the GETRAG, should I want to change the suggested 176 mph top speed.

I would imagine it is possible at a price, the ratio's in a G50 are much easier, " should you want to change the 176mph top speed"--No, your going to blitz most things to 120-130mph anyway, if you want to continually drive at greater speeds on public roads then "plod " will have your licence. On Uk Tracks you wont see any more than 155mph, if you go to europe then you will see higher speeds, but, IMHO thay extra 20mph takes a lot of dealing with!

ultimad

315 posts

227 months

Thursday 16th November 2006
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Folks, I've been talking to Roger Brown from PowerHaus II about a possible change to my Getrag 6 speed ratios. We have only talked so far about a change he has currently available to make 1st gear taller (ratio 2.75). He says he can do a run of taller 6th gears if the demand is there. Quote :

"Fitment involves the gearbox to be fully stripped with all gears on the input shaft removed. The custom tall 1st gear that we have had produced is a weld on type and includes a new reverse as well (they had to be made that way). The original first and reverse would then be machined off the input shaft and re-fitted with the new gears. I can provide you with an input shaft already prepared, so to speak, and ready to install. Your price for a ready to install input shaft with new gears is $1350.00 plus shipping. Currently I don't have an optional taller 6th gear but would not be opposed to having a small run made if the market is there."

Now before I even consider taking this further I would be interested in your views on this. I have also asked him about a change to make all the gears taller (say similar to the turbo 6 speed Getrag ??).

What would be great is if anybody has had experience of doing similar or have taller gear ratios on their boxes than mine and what they feel about drivability, impact on acceleration, etc. ? I have an engine that can rev to 7500, I do find 1st not very unusable and to be honest I reckon all gears could do with being a little taller (definitely 6th). I'm not an 'engineer' but I know there's a few of you here so I would value your input.

LuckyP

6,243 posts

226 months

Thursday 16th November 2006
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Can't tell you about the drive, yet.

But Roger has suggested and supplied the following for my G50 03:
ring and pinion 3.444
At 7000rpm

1st 3.5 44.781mph (std)
2nd 2.059 76.124mph (std)
3rd 1.407 111.364mph (std)
4th 0.967 162.139mph (OE Porsche)
5th 0.688 227.977mph (Custom PHII)

All the rev drops fall from 7000 rpm to around the 4,800 mark. I have seen from the vid of honigton that the 4th and 5th gears had drops to around 5,000 + and very soor ran outta legs.

We'll see.

Lucky

Edited by LuckyP on Thursday 16th November 11:40


Edited by LuckyP on Thursday 16th November 11:48