RE: Electric Alfa Giulia confirmed
RE: Electric Alfa Giulia confirmed
Monday 4th April 2022

Electric Alfa Giulia confirmed

The Alfa saloon will return, but not as we know it



Not so long ago, the news of a non-Tesla all-electric compact executive saloon would have grabbed all the headlines. Such is the rate of progress now that it almost feels par for the course. BMW showed an i3 electric 3 Series for China just last week, an A4 e-tron feels as predictable as the next sunset and you can bet Mercedes won't be far behind its long-standing adversaries.

That Alfa Romeo has committed to an electric four-door is a little more newsworthy, however. With the demise of the Giorgio platform (the one underneath the Giulia and Stelvio) confirmed a little while back, and the Tonale tasked with doing the big sales volumes, the future for both saloon and SUV looked a little uncertain. Now there's a bit of clarity on the matter, albeit from an AutomotiveNews interview with CEO Jean-Philippe Imparato rather than a formal press release.

"We are not abandoning the Giulia. There will be a future Giulia and it will be an electric-only model", he said. Which is fairly unequivocal. Whatever the Germans have planned for the EV small saloon - and whatever Jaguar might be cooking up for its electric-only future - Alfa will have a competitor for. Which is good to know; the ICE Giulia was and remains a great car, but it was only ever going to have limited impact against the established opposition arriving as late as 2015. Now it seems the wait for an Italian alternative will be much shorter.



There's less good news for the Giulietta hatch, which won't be replaced - you probably don't need us or Jean-Philippe to tell you why. "For the compact segment we have the Tonale, which is a global product. The Giulietta was only a European model and we want Alfa to be global", he added. No real surprise. And, let's be honest, it's not a car that'll be missed hugely - a world without an Alfa Giulia would be a sadder place than one without a Giulietta.

For the moment, there aren't any firm details on what a Giulia EV might actually be, but it's well known that parent company Stellantis is investing heavily in battery-powered platforms. There's going to be one that fits just fine for a mid-size Alfa saloon. Imagine how good it might look, too, given the current Giulia and the freedom that doing away with a combustion engine affords designers.

Of course, there's one thing that doing away with a combustion engine also means, and that's the demise of the V6-engined Quadrifoglio. Which we knew was coming, but somehow feels sadder with actual confirmation. Apparently an electric flagship is being considered, though it'll struggle to match that 2015 car for sheer impact. Nobody ever expected an Alfa sports saloon to be good, only for the 510hp Giulia to romp to the top of its class - cool car. Given the news, now might just be the time to buy one...


Source: Automotive News, via Carscoops





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corcoran

Original Poster:

693 posts

305 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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I will own a QF facelift before I die; so help me God.

pSyCoSiS

4,343 posts

236 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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corcoran said:
I will own a QF facelift before I die; so help me God.
They are stunning cars indeed.

Jon556

431 posts

57 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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You can’t be a proper petrolhea… oh. Wait.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

265 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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What's the point? May as well buy that Kia thing.

pb8g09

3,295 posts

100 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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Next door neighbour dailies one. He’s had the AA round under the bonnet three times in 3 months. Sounds nice I guess. Not sure what the USP on an EV is unless they can avoid making it look like a bloated MPV like the rest of the market.

Mave

8,217 posts

246 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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Gorgeous looking car smile

T1berious

2,680 posts

186 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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If they can make it look close to the current model with 320 miles WLTP, yeah, I'd be all over that.

EV's are a lot less complicated ( - insert Alfa reliability gag here - ).

As the EV market grows I think we'll see more genuinely good looking cars (Taycan is the only one that hits WANT!). Alfa Guilia EV with 450 Bhp and 600 lb/ft would be a decent fit, OK it will be 300Kg heavier than the out going model but it sounds like an interesting take on the Performance Exec.

Certainly, as a concept, nicer than the i4

A Winner Is You

26,144 posts

258 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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I just want the regular Veloce to come down in price, I know the market is still crazy at the moment but there's only one under £20k on AT and that's a Cat N.

MadCaptainJack

1,900 posts

71 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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Pistonheads said:
With the demise of the Giorgio platform (the one underneath the Giulia and Stelvio) confirmed a little while back...
I don't know why Pistonheads' writers keep parroting this line.

In October 2019, FCA CEO Mike Manley, said during a results call that that the Giorgio platform was being updated to support electrification.

Mike Manley said:
The Giorgio platform is a phenomenal platform and has done well underpinning Giulia and Stelvio. Remember, what we need to do though is make sure that it's capable of full electrification going forward. So there's been significant changes to that platform to enable, not just a full battery electric, but plug-in hybrid.

We have changed the suspension. We have updated all of the electrical architecture in that so that it can take the next-generation infotainment as well as very, very advanced high-tech features."
Last May, Alfa Romeo CEO JP Imparato refuted reports that the Giorgio platform was set to be abandoned.

motoring.com.au said:
Much has been written about the alleged impending demise of the Giorgio platform that provides the foundation for the agile Alfa Romeo Giulia and Stelvio, but Imparato suggests such reports are inaccurate.

“Do not make confusion between rumour and information. We did not at Alfa Romeo state anything [regarding the canning of Giorgio] for the moment,” he said.

“It is clear that we need to prepare for a future that leverages the fantastic assets of the Stellantis Group, but always protecting the spirit of Alfa Romeo.

“As a consequence, we are working on the next steps our core techno strategy. We are doing this while specifying Alfa Romeo as a sporty brand that’s uniquely Italian, as has been the case since 1910.

“I will not answer questions about Giorgio, but we only said we would have a large platform [the EV-focused STLA architecture] at Stellantis.

“I can tell you, though, that whatever solution we come up with will enable us to put this kind of car [points at Giulia GTAm] on the road.”
A modified version of the Giorgio platform underpins the new Maserati Grecale, including the upcoming all-electric Folgore model, and Spanish motoring website motor.es reported last month that the new GranTurismo will be built on the same platform .

motor.es said:
La nueva generación del GranTurismo se basa en la plataforma Giorgio de Alfa Romeo. El fabricante italiano, bajo el paraguas de Stellantis, ha adaptado la tecnología Folgore a dicha arquitectura.
I'll bet £20 that the electric Giulia will use the same platform.

RonnieHotdogs

1,066 posts

132 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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pb8g09 said:
Next door neighbour dailies one. He’s had the AA round under the bonnet three times in 3 months. Sounds nice I guess. Not sure what the USP on an EV is unless they can avoid making it look like a bloated MPV like the rest of the market.
What year is his? I know the earlier cars (17 plate-ish) had some teething issues and they can suffer with battery drain if not used frequently ...

I've had two, a MY19 and a MY21, both as daily drivers and covered about 8k in total. Had zero issues with either.

Wonderful cars, absolutely joyous to drive.

Slowlygettingit

947 posts

72 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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Imagine how good it might look, too, given the current Giulia and the freedom that doing away with a combustion engine affords designers.


This must be one of the most abused ideas about the future appearance of cars. There is still a requirement / demand for a crash structure ahead of the passenger space, pedestrian crash regulations to meet, standards for light heights and a myriad of other bureaucratic rules to adhere to before we see something that doesn’t confirm to the norm. Plus how many of the public want to drive round in something radically different from what they know?

I’d be hugely tempted by something that looked like a coach built / concept car / spaceship / sphere / intergalactic banjo but I just don’t see the rules and the senior management letting it happen. Ever.

foxhounduk

706 posts

211 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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I used to have a 2017 Giulia QF. Great car; great sound, great looks, very exciting to drive.

Remove the ICE from the Giulia and what are you left with? Just the Giulia name.

I recall Alfa used to use the slogan in their adverts not so long ago: " Without heart we would be mere machines".

Looks like an electric Giulia will just be a mere machine then.

Pereldh

829 posts

143 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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Could be the first EV being actually a drivers car, with good looks and decent pricetag....?
At least compared to the best drivers EV's today (Taycan and Lucid Air.)

I'd be up for one.

Edited by Pereldh on Tuesday 5th April 17:14

ColdoRS

1,926 posts

158 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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Had a Giulia Veloce and replaced it with a Tesla Model 3.

Tesla is incredible but I loved the alfa too. Would definitely consider another, especially if they offer a performance EV model.

SturdyHSV

10,443 posts

198 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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If there's one thing that'll tempt BMW drivers over to Alfa, it's definitely more Italian electronics hehe


Phantom Mark

257 posts

207 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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After being a solid BMW man for decades the Alfa QV was my first and only ever Alfa, absolutely love it, as BMW got newer and better and better they started to feel more and more dull, lacking soul, the Alfa oozes soul and excitement from every pore of its fibre. BMW's are still awesome, but maybe they got too awesome for their own good ?

I very much doubt I will sell the Alfa after I finish paying for it.


jbforce10

509 posts

206 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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SidewaysSi said:
What's the point? May as well buy that Kia thing.
Following that logic there would only ever need to be one manufacturer of all cars.

Alfa have managed to add a little "something" to a Giulia to make it preferable to several people over a 3 series or A4 (not even taking the snarling halo models into account). Why couldn't they do the same in the electric age, be it by design, handling, exclusivity or something completely different? Just because you plug it in instead of fill it up it doesn't mean that all EVs are destined to be the same.

.... plus I like the Kia EV6 wink

croyde

26,525 posts

261 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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There's a reason that people mortgage themselves to the hilt in order to get a QF over the very capable Veloce.

A Guilia with an electric engine! You might as well get something from the Koreans who do it well and make good fridges too.

ddom

6,657 posts

79 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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I can’t get excited about an electric Alfa at all. Their USP was character.

Callummcc

9 posts

67 months

Tuesday 5th April 2022
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Alfa Romeo had such a good platform with the Giulia and the Stelvio but they've buggered it up, they could have made all sorts from there!