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tedblog said:
It just had to happen didnt it? Thieves are cutting the charging cables from ev points , dealers and homes for the copper.
Guy had his knicked on my estate and Police said they have seen a big increase in thefts.
Apparently Porsche and Mercedes in Leeds have been targeted too.
Well of course it had to happen, all things that can happen tend to - to an extent.Guy had his knicked on my estate and Police said they have seen a big increase in thefts.
Apparently Porsche and Mercedes in Leeds have been targeted too.
Edited by tedblog on Tuesday 2nd August 09:42
There hasn't been the widespread theft that many feared - or excitedly looked forward to for the drama.
There's better and safer ways to make a few quid out of copper, that alone will keep this trend marginal. Home cables are particularly unlikely to be swiped unless tethered and not plugged into the car, purely because it's often not obvious if they're live or not.
SWoll said:
Similar to catalytic converter theft on an ICE car, although cheaper to fix and doesn't affect the function of the car itself in comparison.
When the world is going to s
t and people are getting desperate, things like this should come as no surprise.
disagree - I suspect that a lot of these sorts of scumbags would steal even if it was cheaper to buy.When the world is going to s
t and people are getting desperate, things like this should come as no surprise.DodgyGeezer said:
SWoll said:
Similar to catalytic converter theft on an ICE car, although cheaper to fix and doesn't affect the function of the car itself in comparison.
When the world is going to st and people are getting desperate, things like this should come as no surprise.
disagree - I suspect that a lot of these sorts of scumbags would steal even if it was cheaper to buy.When the world is going to s
t and people are getting desperate, things like this should come as no surprise.The thing is, you'd get more material value by sneaking into a blokes garage or shed and cutting off the lawnmower flex.
Or my normal advice to any muppets staring at a few metres of 32a flex that may or may not be live, go nick another muppets inadaquately secured bike instead, you get something that's actually worth a few quid and a getaway vehicle at the same time.
EV cable theft is doable and makes a little money, but so long as there are far more tempting and less likely to be observed, safer and easier targets, it's not going to become prolific. As evidence of that, this is about the twentieth thread I've seen on the subject and out of a rapidly growing number of EV ph'ers on this forum, I've yet to hear from one that has actually suffered a theft.
Or my normal advice to any muppets staring at a few metres of 32a flex that may or may not be live, go nick another muppets inadaquately secured bike instead, you get something that's actually worth a few quid and a getaway vehicle at the same time.
EV cable theft is doable and makes a little money, but so long as there are far more tempting and less likely to be observed, safer and easier targets, it's not going to become prolific. As evidence of that, this is about the twentieth thread I've seen on the subject and out of a rapidly growing number of EV ph'ers on this forum, I've yet to hear from one that has actually suffered a theft.
TheDeuce said:
There's better and safer ways to make a few quid out of copper, that alone will keep this trend marginal. Home cables are particularly unlikely to be swiped unless tethered and not plugged into the car, purely because it's often not obvious if they're live or not.
It won't be live if you disconnect (aka kick it out) of the vehicle first.Thieves learn quickly.
No ideas for a name said:
TheDeuce said:
There's better and safer ways to make a few quid out of copper, that alone will keep this trend marginal. Home cables are particularly unlikely to be swiped unless tethered and not plugged into the car, purely because it's often not obvious if they're live or not.
It won't be live if you disconnect (aka kick it out) of the vehicle first.Thieves learn quickly.
Making all that racket and still with at least a small risk of a shock for a few quids worth of copper?
That's simply not a tantalising target.
Cutting off a tethered charger cable just about makes sense as that is obviously not live if it's not connected to a car - other than the SELV signal voltage which is harmless.
kambites said:
Scrap insulated copper cable is worth, what, £2 per kilo? How much does the average charging cable weigh... 3kg?
It's a lot of effort to go to for £6. There are far more efficient things to steal!
I reckon about a fiver tops. So commit 20 individual crimes and strip 60 odd metres of multicore flex down to the copper, dispose of all the other materials and plugs without attracting questions and you have £100 minus any costs. You also have 20 seperate people reporting the same crime around the area you live, so repeating the excercise is risky.It's a lot of effort to go to for £6. There are far more efficient things to steal!
It would literally be easier to get an honest job! You'd make money faster by knocking on doors asking if people would like their car washing.
TheDeuce said:
No ideas for a name said:
TheDeuce said:
There's better and safer ways to make a few quid out of copper, that alone will keep this trend marginal. Home cables are particularly unlikely to be swiped unless tethered and not plugged into the car, purely because it's often not obvious if they're live or not.
It won't be live if you disconnect (aka kick it out) of the vehicle first.Thieves learn quickly.
Making all that racket and still with at least a small risk of a shock for a few quids worth of copper?
That's simply not a tantalising target.
Cutting off a tethered charger cable just about makes sense as that is obviously not live if it's not connected to a car - other than the SELV signal voltage which is harmless.
There was a spate of thefts on a specifric road in Manchester a couple of years back. Type 2 cables are/were knickable to be flogged on ebay for a lot more than the scrap value. The more cars are delivered with them, and most now are, the less the demand for them.
TheDeuce said:
I reckon about a fiver tops. So commit 20 individual crimes and strip 60 odd metres of multicore flex down to the copper, dispose of all the other materials and plugs without attracting questions and you have £100 minus any costs. You also have 20 seperate people reporting the same crime around the area you live, so repeating the excercise is risky.
It would literally be easier to get an honest job! You'd make money faster by knocking on doors asking if people would like their car washing.
I've made the point before (as others have said too) that if a lot of crims put the same effort into being honest they'd be a LOT better off - actually probably less effort, but some people just aren't wired that wayIt would literally be easier to get an honest job! You'd make money faster by knocking on doors asking if people would like their car washing.
The thieves are stealing the cables in working condition to sell on rather than the few pounds worth of metal contained within, same as how they used to break into cars to get satnavs they now break into them even when they aren't charging to get the cable as it's easy to sell on.
Mate has his stolen from his Mitsubishi PHEV whilst it was charging in a council carpark recently though it could have also been an irate pure EV owner doing it out of spite rather than financial gain as he's had grief from them when charging.
Mate has his stolen from his Mitsubishi PHEV whilst it was charging in a council carpark recently though it could have also been an irate pure EV owner doing it out of spite rather than financial gain as he's had grief from them when charging.
untakenname said:
The thieves are stealing the cables in working condition to sell on rather than the few pounds worth of metal contained within, same as how they used to break into cars to get satnavs they now break into them even when they aren't charging to get the cable as it's easy to sell on.
Mate has his stolen from his Mitsubishi PHEV whilst it was charging in a council carpark recently though it could have also been an irate pure EV owner doing it out of spite rather than financial gain as he's had grief from them when charging.
I'd suspect the latter too in that situation! People get weird about shared parking...Mate has his stolen from his Mitsubishi PHEV whilst it was charging in a council carpark recently though it could have also been an irate pure EV owner doing it out of spite rather than financial gain as he's had grief from them when charging.
Totally agree if they can swipe the cable in tact it's probably worthwhile, although as said above, all EV's now come with a cable so I don't imagine they'll retain much value in the future.
Some throbber uploaded a clickbaity video to YouTube on this subject, claiming it's a craze sweeping the country which would mean that EVs no longer have a future. Cue predictable comments saying this was another reason they would never buy an EV. They all seemed to have overlooked the fact that 100 years of having fuel syphoned and at least 20 years of having catalytic converters hacksawed off haven't put people off buying ICE cars.
Scumbags are going to steal anything whether it's nailed down or not unfortunately.
Scumbags are going to steal anything whether it's nailed down or not unfortunately.
doesthiswork said:
Some throbber uploaded a clickbaity video to YouTube on this subject, claiming it's a craze sweeping the country which would mean that EVs no longer have a future. Cue predictable comments saying this was another reason they would never buy an EV. They all seemed to have overlooked the fact that 100 years of having fuel syphoned and at least 20 years of having catalytic converters hacksawed off haven't put people off buying ICE cars.
Scumbags are going to steal anything whether it's nailed down or not unfortunately.
was it that aScumbags are going to steal anything whether it's nailed down or not unfortunately.
hole McMaster?doesthiswork said:
Some throbber uploaded a clickbaity video to YouTube on this subject, claiming it's a craze sweeping the country which would mean that EVs no longer have a future. Cue predictable comments saying this was another reason they would never buy an EV. They all seemed to have overlooked the fact that 100 years of having fuel syphoned and at least 20 years of having catalytic converters hacksawed off haven't put people off buying ICE cars.
Scumbags are going to steal anything whether it's nailed down or not unfortunately.
Fuel theft definitely stil a problem , had our vans targeted 2 weeks ago, theft of fuel is annoying, but its the damage they cause to property and the vehicles. Scumbags are going to steal anything whether it's nailed down or not unfortunately.
CCTV show 5 guys in hoodies and masks , anybody know them ?
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