Is workplace charging something the govt should push on?
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I noticed that increasingly there's alot more work place chargers. however access to these is usually limited for various reasons.
One place I went to it was fleet cars only. Another was management only.
If a person could once/twice a week charge the car at work whilst at work would this not increase access to those people without on street charging?
Whether the workplace has this as a perk for free charging or the staff member pays a subsidised rate, I just think this is a missed opportunity to push places where chargers can be installed and accessed easily by people.
Have a booking system if need be - Mondays Janet gets to charge tuesdays chris wednesdays barney etc. depending on the speed - if they're faster then you could have people move them at lunch if need be.
One place I went to it was fleet cars only. Another was management only.
If a person could once/twice a week charge the car at work whilst at work would this not increase access to those people without on street charging?
Whether the workplace has this as a perk for free charging or the staff member pays a subsidised rate, I just think this is a missed opportunity to push places where chargers can be installed and accessed easily by people.
Have a booking system if need be - Mondays Janet gets to charge tuesdays chris wednesdays barney etc. depending on the speed - if they're faster then you could have people move them at lunch if need be.
I cannot work out why we don't have a carpark full of chargers.
We make so much of the stuff, we wouldn't even notice it. We have a large transformer right next to the carpark we could use and all the expertise to install them.
Would be good PR too, work all day producing low carbon electricity and drive to and from work carbon free too.
Yet all we have is three next to the visitors centre.
We make so much of the stuff, we wouldn't even notice it. We have a large transformer right next to the carpark we could use and all the expertise to install them.
Would be good PR too, work all day producing low carbon electricity and drive to and from work carbon free too.
Yet all we have is three next to the visitors centre.
Have companies provided free petrol and diesel pumps for employees private cars in the past?
Energy costs and imagine dealing with the "X is getting his private Tesla's fuel paid for here is my claim for the petrol in my V8." Arguments.
Unless you're talking about chargers where you have to pay.
Energy costs and imagine dealing with the "X is getting his private Tesla's fuel paid for here is my claim for the petrol in my V8." Arguments.
Unless you're talking about chargers where you have to pay.
stumpage said:
Have companies provided free petrol and diesel pumps for employees private cars in the past?
Energy costs and imagine dealing with the "X is getting his private Tesla's fuel paid for here is my claim for the petrol in my V8." Arguments.
Unless you're talking about chargers where you have to pay.
"It's part of our net zero drive, when you get an electric car we will let you charge it for free"Energy costs and imagine dealing with the "X is getting his private Tesla's fuel paid for here is my claim for the petrol in my V8." Arguments.
Unless you're talking about chargers where you have to pay.
Slightly more seriously, what's the % of people who can't charge at home, 38%? Workplaces, shops & leisure faiclities are going to have to do it if we are going to shift a large proportion of that 38% away from petrol & diesel
be interesting to see how much that would increase a company's costs by... 60 cars all charging every day (for example), not to mention the cost of installation which for medium/larger companies could be significant - though obviously catching ta-breaks and good reputation for doing so might defray this
Would this be the same government that has been talking about taxing parking at work and generally discouraging workplace parking?
Electric cars are a bit better on the air quality front, but a city gridlocked by cars is just as gridlocked if they're electric or pedal powered.
Encouraging people to charge their cars during peak demand hours is also not ideal.
Electric cars are a bit better on the air quality front, but a city gridlocked by cars is just as gridlocked if they're electric or pedal powered.
Encouraging people to charge their cars during peak demand hours is also not ideal.
We were lucky to get our new UK headquarters built last year which included 10 charging spots with the infrastructure to increase.
We're limited to 2 hours a day free charging (7kW) and are told its due to "tax reasons" and therefore only supplying enough so you can drive to the office and home.
Currently they're only about 40% utilized and can easily get a spot and stretch it out a little if no one is booked after you. I'm expecting in the next year or so the "free" bit will stop, but I'm on the octopus go that's only £1.05 a day, it all helps but not a deal breaker
We're limited to 2 hours a day free charging (7kW) and are told its due to "tax reasons" and therefore only supplying enough so you can drive to the office and home.
Currently they're only about 40% utilized and can easily get a spot and stretch it out a little if no one is booked after you. I'm expecting in the next year or so the "free" bit will stop, but I'm on the octopus go that's only £1.05 a day, it all helps but not a deal breaker
Yes. 100%. The last 10 years I've worked at offices with workplace charging. It's not difficult to implement or expensive to run. One was free, the other was run by a charge provider for a reasonable charge (much more expensive than home, but cheaper than petrol or PHEV).
I think they can do more. I think they will do more. 7kW posts aren't expensive, but if government requires smart chargers it becomes more expensive.
I think they can do more. I think they will do more. 7kW posts aren't expensive, but if government requires smart chargers it becomes more expensive.
OutInTheShed said:
Would this be the same government that has been talking about taxing parking at work and generally discouraging workplace parking?
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The government that made very clear workplace charging isn't a BiK?.
JonnyVTEC said:
Workplace charging adds to daytime demand unlike overnight.
Great option for people without charging but it’s an interesting balance to strike.
I don't think many people with home off-peak charging would be using workplace charging unless it undercut their home rate. I have no expectation of free charging, it was nice in one office and chargers were part of planning permission. Just happened that they were installed before many of the charging networks really existed.Great option for people without charging but it’s an interesting balance to strike.
I mainly use office chargers because my PHEV range is only 40 miles electric.
Gary C said:
I cannot work out why we don't have a carpark full of chargers.
We make so much of the stuff, we wouldn't even notice it. We have a large transformer right next to the carpark we could use and all the expertise to install them.
Would be good PR too, work all day producing low carbon electricity and drive to and from work carbon free too.
Yet all we have is three next to the visitors centre.
Local electric grid wouldn't support itWe make so much of the stuff, we wouldn't even notice it. We have a large transformer right next to the carpark we could use and all the expertise to install them.
Would be good PR too, work all day producing low carbon electricity and drive to and from work carbon free too.
Yet all we have is three next to the visitors centre.
Not with out new substations and power cables putting into for such huge draws
Collectingbrass said:
"It's part of our net zero drive, when you get an electric car we will let you charge it for free"
Slightly more seriously, what's the % of people who can't charge at home, 38%? Workplaces, shops & leisure faiclities are going to have to do it if we are going to shift a large proportion of that 38% away from petrol & diesel
There might be a 30% ish that are profiled as not being able to charge at home, but it's very difficult to work out what % of those people don't want or can't have a car, or can only have a car now by running an old shed which is something that will probably die out. There's also limited political interest in ensuring that pretty much anyone should have private transport - they want less cars on the road.Slightly more seriously, what's the % of people who can't charge at home, 38%? Workplaces, shops & leisure faiclities are going to have to do it if we are going to shift a large proportion of that 38% away from petrol & diesel
Then there's the problem that a lot of people in high density housing that can't charge at home actually don't have a job/a job at a physical place with car parking on site etc.
So I'm not sure there is much use in trying to solve the 'cany charge at home' issue by encouraging workplaces to install chargers. They need to install public chargers along the streets in such areas, and those chargers need to offer power at a small premium above retail power price to make them affordable and pay for their upkeep. And ideally, cheap night time charging rates as will soon be commonplace in the UK for retail tarriffs.
Some workplaces might find value in installing chargers, especially if it helps attract and retain good employees.
Chris32345 said:
Gary C said:
I cannot work out why we don't have a carpark full of chargers.
We make so much of the stuff, we wouldn't even notice it. We have a large transformer right next to the carpark we could use and all the expertise to install them.
Would be good PR too, work all day producing low carbon electricity and drive to and from work carbon free too.
Yet all we have is three next to the visitors centre.
Local electric grid wouldn't support itWe make so much of the stuff, we wouldn't even notice it. We have a large transformer right next to the carpark we could use and all the expertise to install them.
Would be good PR too, work all day producing low carbon electricity and drive to and from work carbon free too.
Yet all we have is three next to the visitors centre.
Not with out new substations and power cables putting into for such huge draws
He's involved in running a nuclear power station!
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