why even bother arresting these people
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Just been watching some kind of police show on Men & Motors.
They pick up a guy who has failed to buy a ticket for the train. The BiB run a check on him and he has two motoring offences outstanding and is wanted for not attending court.
The BiB spend a long time getting this gimp in to the van as he is kicking up. Get him to the station, is charged, given a new date to turn up to court and let out again.
Why fu:censored:ng bother in the first fu:censored:ng place - Let me think what is likely to happen.
Surely the BiB's despair !?!?!?
They pick up a guy who has failed to buy a ticket for the train. The BiB run a check on him and he has two motoring offences outstanding and is wanted for not attending court.
The BiB spend a long time getting this gimp in to the van as he is kicking up. Get him to the station, is charged, given a new date to turn up to court and let out again.
Why fu:censored:ng bother in the first fu:censored:ng place - Let me think what is likely to happen.
Surely the BiB's despair !?!?!?
ng bother in the first fuI know, I sometimes watch this programme and wonder the same thing. What's the bloody point.
Sorry if it seems like I'm getting in an opportunistic point in, but it's a shame that the authorities, from the government down, are far happier taking money from easy-target drivers / riders under the unbrella of guiulty until proven innocent.
Sorry if it seems like I'm getting in an opportunistic point in, but it's a shame that the authorities, from the government down, are far happier taking money from easy-target drivers / riders under the unbrella of guiulty until proven innocent.
DVD sums the process up pretty well. Yes it is rather soul destroying when you have gone to the effort of arresting someone, possibly involving a fight with an offender intent on getting away,go through hours of paperwork, send them to court for a slap on the wrist by the court system.
Example......I arrested a prolific offender for vehicle crime. No court on a Sunday, so kept in overnight for court in the morning. Worked overtime getting lots of jobs that were outstanding for him together in his file, contacted his solicitor, waited an age for him to attend, briefed him then waited another age whilst offender and solicitor had nice long chat.... long interview...."Not me guv, or no comment" Fair enough. There we go, even though some evidence showed it was obviously him.
Charged with offences, off to sleep, court in the morning.
He goes to court on Monday, community service, and nicks a car from the leisure centre car park to get home from Yate to Bristol.
That is why I never get on the phone to check how my jobs have gone once they get to court.
I must add though, rather than turn this into a cps lawyers are crap thread, I don't think that is the case, it is the overall system. I know of many cps lawyers that are frustrated as pointy end police officers. Anyway, 15yrs to retirement.
:whistlingmode: always look on the bright side of life.....
off to work on my tvr now.
Example......I arrested a prolific offender for vehicle crime. No court on a Sunday, so kept in overnight for court in the morning. Worked overtime getting lots of jobs that were outstanding for him together in his file, contacted his solicitor, waited an age for him to attend, briefed him then waited another age whilst offender and solicitor had nice long chat.... long interview...."Not me guv, or no comment" Fair enough. There we go, even though some evidence showed it was obviously him.
Charged with offences, off to sleep, court in the morning.
He goes to court on Monday, community service, and nicks a car from the leisure centre car park to get home from Yate to Bristol.
That is why I never get on the phone to check how my jobs have gone once they get to court.
I must add though, rather than turn this into a cps lawyers are crap thread, I don't think that is the case, it is the overall system. I know of many cps lawyers that are frustrated as pointy end police officers. Anyway, 15yrs to retirement.
:whistlingmode: always look on the bright side of life.....
off to work on my tvr now.
Did a weeks work in the magistrates court. VERY depressing stuff indeed. Too many members of the judiciary (by that I mean the Mags as well as Crown judges) are left of centre in their beliefs, allowing these scrotes to get away with it.
On top of that, the Govt are trying to ensure that the prisons aren't overcrowded so put pressure on the courts not to jail, but to use alternative "punishments".
Very sad, and little wonder society (IME) no longer has much faith in the police or "justice" system.
On top of that, the Govt are trying to ensure that the prisons aren't overcrowded so put pressure on the courts not to jail, but to use alternative "punishments".
Very sad, and little wonder society (IME) no longer has much faith in the police or "justice" system.
Worst thing is when an "administritive error" occurs (usually involving failure to update the Police National Computer)& the prolific offender is subject to an unlawful detention.
Soul destroying to have to pay such individuals £500 for the first hour of incarceration (not a mistake) when for the original crime for which they were originally arrested & bailed, ie shoplifting, TWOCKing etc, they get a few pounds fine & eons to settle it from their dole money.
Oh & because your average profilific offender is in the vast majority of instances unemployed/unemplotable, they get assistance by way of the Legal Services Commision to intimate such Civil claims.
Who says crime doesnt pay ?
Soul destroying to have to pay such individuals £500 for the first hour of incarceration (not a mistake) when for the original crime for which they were originally arrested & bailed, ie shoplifting, TWOCKing etc, they get a few pounds fine & eons to settle it from their dole money.
Oh & because your average profilific offender is in the vast majority of instances unemployed/unemplotable, they get assistance by way of the Legal Services Commision to intimate such Civil claims.
Who says crime doesnt pay ?
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